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    • Jordan23J
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      Oni 612, TFH 3009 and 3012 work for me.

      Enjoy ya addiction!

      AE

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      • Max PowerM
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        Resolute 710 XX is also a great cut. And the 400T, as mentioned.

        @elclintor:

        > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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        • B
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          Full Count 1101 and its 1101XX equivalent

          Edit: since everyone and their mother is doing „lifter cuts“ these days you will also find models from Japan Blue (High Taper) and Momotaro (forgot the model name), Naked & Famous’ Easy Guy, Unbranded recently released such a cut. Over on reddit’s rawdenim subreddit you will find more options

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          • spitfiredealerS
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            Bought a pair of 634 OD about a month ago. Sized down 1. Wearing them for the first time today. My quads have grown significantly in that month! Going to be putting the stretchability of the 21oz to the test over the coming weeks! Good news is the waist still fits perfectly. So at least i know my bulking up is working. #lifterproblems

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            • atm23A
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              633 & 634S. I have been lifting for many years and these two have fit my thighs the best, with room to spare. I had to get the 634S' tapered because the straight cut follows to the hem.

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              • JDelageJ
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                Full plates?

                I'm doing 3x3 with heavier weights (comparatively to what I'd be able to do 3x5 or 5x5). This should reduce bulking.

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                • AppfaffA
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                  You should not be "bulking" unless your overall volume increases.

                  Bulking is cause either by 1. Hypertrophy (which usually happens due to 1. A lot of volume in short amount of time or 2. Reps in the 8-12+ range at moderate loads) or 2. A caloric increase compared to your metabolic rate.

                  Just because you get stronger doesn't mean your legs will
                  Get bigger.  However, bigger legs usually do mean stronger legs 🙂

                  Now this is hypertrophy range haha-
                  This was a 1-10-1-20-1-30 squat workout. 30 reps at 90% BW after 20 reps @100%BW and 10 reps at 110% BW and some heavy singles thrown in the mix

                  https://instagram.com/p/BO-qSzhlO0_/

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                  • JDelageJ
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                    Maybe bulking was the wrong term. My point is that 3x3 at heavier weight should result in less mass gained than 5x5 at a lower weight (but comparable level of perceived effort).

                    Also, you're strong as hell. There's no f'ing way I'd ever be able to do even 1/3 of that workout. Impressive work.

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                    • AppfaffA
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                      @JDelage - I agree with you about the 3x3 vs 5x5. Unless there is a huge increase in loading paired with a huge increase in caloric intake. Some strength athletes will actually use deloading in volume and an increase in caloric intake to force faster recovery or taper before a meet or game.

                      and Im not really strong. im one of the weaker dudes in my own damn gym haha.

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                      • tvenutoT
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                        Another #lifterproblems member here.  I wear a 34 (often buy a 33 to account for stretch), and my thighs measure ~25.  So any jeans that measure less than 12.5 flat are an absolute no go.  I usually like to see 13-13.5 because I don't like tight pants.  I also tend to have issues with the top block being tight around the low hip area, which was my problem with the brown whipcord workpants that I had to send back.

                        I'm currently wearing the IH 1955S, which are pretty good in the leg, but as I mentioned in that other thread (that we got booted from), the rise on these is very high.  I still like them, but it makes the pockets seem short, and I have trouble walking up stairs with a phone in my pocket.

                        I've found that the momotaro copper label G019-MB work well, although I have little time in them since it's winter and I've been sticking with my 1955s.  I think I have an advantage because I don't care for narrow leg openings either, so I don't need an extreme taper.  I have relatively long legs so I think the wider lower legs balance that out.

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                        • manufc10M
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                          I too have this same issue and I have found the Iron Heart 633, Railcar Spikes, and Left Field Greaser (for a more straight leg fit) and Charles Atlas (for a tapered fit) fits work.

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                          • spitfiredealerS
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                            @Appfaff  & @neph93 or anyone really, you got any experience in the amount of stretch i'll get in the thighs with the 21oz? I can feel it stretching after only a few days but be nice to know what i can expect

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                            • neph93N
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                              It definitely loosens up some but not loads like the 17oz does. I'm 20 days into my SBG 21oz 555's now and the upper thigh measures about 3mm bigger than it did new. Not loads but noticeable. The last pair I had in the regular 21oz ended up nearly a cm bigger, but I absolutely trashed those using them as work pants on a summer long building project.

                              “Some of those that work forces
                              Are the same that burn crosses”

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                              • spitfiredealerS
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                                Thanks man,  i am hoping for 0.5" but that might be too hopefully. My quads have blown up in a month. Seriously considering training them less

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                                • AppfaffA
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                                  @spitfiredealer:

                                  @Appfaff  & @neph93 or anyone really, you got any experience in the amount of stretch i'll get in the thighs with the 21oz? I can feel it stretching after only a few days but be nice to know what i can expect

                                  My 301 stretched almost half a size, maybe 0.25-0.4" in the thigh - while my 21oz SBG haven't stretched quite as much. I remember my ODBB stretched about 0.3 in the thighs

                                  Good luck!

                                  And Neph, how on earth have your 17oz stretched a bunch… mine have yet to give at all haha [emoji23]

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                                  • neph93N
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                                    @Appfaff:

                                    And Neph, how on earth have your 17oz stretched a bunch… mine have yet to give at all haha [emoji23]

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                                    Are we talking the same IH 17oz natural indigo denim? Mine are the 555N. No denim I've ever had stretches so much. I easily got .5" in the thigh. Mind you, I needed it [emoji28]

                                    “Some of those that work forces
                                    Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                    • AppfaffA
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                                      My 633N have not given even a CM lol god knows I kneed it too [emoji12]

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                                      • neph93N
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                                        That's a bit weird. When I put them on first time they were like latex. I squatted and lunged a bit and they went from Motley Crüe ca. 1989 to relaxed, slim tapered fit for the modern man…

                                        “Some of those that work forces
                                        Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                        • tvenutoT
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                                          @spitfiredealer:

                                          Thanks man,  i am hoping for 0.5" but that might be too hopefully. My quads have blown up in a month. Seriously considering training them less

                                          NEVER!

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                                          • DionD
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                                            Looking at the measurements, I think 3Sixteen's CT-fit (Classic Tapered) should be great.

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