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IH-555N - 17oz Selvedge Denim Super Slim Jeans - Natural Indigo

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    neph93
    見習いボス
    Joined: 18 Aug 2014

    That's interesting. And good to know. Thanks, as always.

    “Some of those that work forces
    Are the same that burn crosses”

    • Virginia Woolf
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    • C
      Chris
      Raw and Unwashed
      Joined: 28 Jun 2010

      @Madame:

      @Giles:

      Thanks.  Table fixed, @Madame Buttonfly fired…...

      😞 - what a shame, and I thought I was all set for a promotion this year…!
      [/quote]
      Not having to do all the work for work with Giles counts as a promotion, doesn't it?

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        neph93
        見習いボス
        Joined: 18 Aug 2014

        @Giles:

        @neph93:

        😃 😃 😃 Somehow I doubt the veracity of the second part of this statement.

        She's in Spain having a well deserved rest, so I'll give her a second chance, don't want to spoil her hol…..

        Haha…Good for her! (I'm jealous).

        “Some of those that work forces
        Are the same that burn crosses”

        • Virginia Woolf
        last edited by 3 Jun 2015, 21:06 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • G
          GingerMagician
          Joined: 27 Oct 2012

          @Giles:

          It is possible.  Lots…...

          Excellent, thanks G.

          Stellar new beer shop opened up round the corner from me recently, so will be able to bring along some gems.

          Simon

          @Megatron1505:

          > You're not even bloody ginger  >:(

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          • G
            Giles
            IHUK Crew
            Joined: 22 Sept 2009

            Unfortunate name…. 😃 😃 😃

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            • G
              GingerMagician
              Joined: 27 Oct 2012

              @Giles:

              Unfortunate name…. 😃 😃 😃

              Ha ha, if only they'd gone for 'Hop, Burns & Black' instead…

              (great place, btw - sells beer, hot chilli sauce and vinyl - total heaven)

              Simon

              @Megatron1505:

              > You're not even bloody ginger  >:(

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              • G
                Giles
                IHUK Crew
                Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                But not denim…..

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                • G
                  GingerMagician
                  Joined: 27 Oct 2012

                  @Giles:

                  But not denim…..

                  Good point…

                  Simon

                  @Megatron1505:

                  > You're not even bloody ginger  >:(

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                    thegiuce
                    Joined: 29 Jun 2015

                    Quick question on the 555N's.

                    I own a pair of IH X R&H 666S. I bought a size 31, and they've broken in perfectly. After a bit of necessary stretch, I'm really happy with where the fit has landed.

                    I'm considering buying some IH 555N and would have normally bought a 31 again, as I would assume the sizing is quite similar. After reading the numbers and a few reviews, it seems like the sizing is different on these, I.E:

                    • 666S size 31 = 32 in waist
                    • 555N size 31 = 31 in waist

                    Given the difference, would you still recommend I stick with a 31 as the rise is higher on the 555N, or would you size up?

                    Also, I notice that the 555N is described as having 1" stretch, but 0.5" shrinkage. Does that mean that in the end, the waist will still land at 1" larger than I started with (assuming I only cold soak them - and not very often)?

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                      neph93
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                      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                      @thegiuce:

                      Quick question on the 555N's.

                      I own a pair of IH X R&H 666S. I bought a size 31, and they've broken in perfectly. After a bit of necessary stretch, I'm really happy with where the fit has landed.

                      I'm considering buying some IH 555N and would have normally bought a 31 again, as I would assume the sizing is quite similar. After reading the numbers and a few reviews, it seems like the sizing is different on these, I.E:

                      • 666S size 31 = 32 in waist
                      • 555N size 31 = 31 in waist

                      Given the difference, would you still recommend I stick with a 31 as the rise is higher on the 555N, or would you size up?

                      Also, I notice that the 555N is described as having 1" stretch, but 0.5" shrinkage. Does that mean that in the end, the waist will still land at 1" larger than I started with (assuming I only cold soak them - and not very often)?

                      Hi!

                      First things first. You're off to a good start because you used the tables. Always use the tables. Actual measurements will vary not just between cuts, but also between versions of cuts (sometimes between runs as well but I understand this is something IH strive to avoid so it's happens rarely.

                      Secondly, generally, the measurements are as is, now. So soaking before wearing will lose you .5. You're new starting point will be 30.5. With wear they'll stretch an inch to 31.5. That being said, I asked G about the stretch with this denim and he got 1.5 on a size 33 (I think, check the thread). So you may well get more than an inch if you need it.

                      I's advise measuring your 666S as they are after breaking in. I suspect they're around 33 inches. If you like em there you might consider sizing up on the 555N.

                      “Some of those that work forces
                      Are the same that burn crosses”

                      • Virginia Woolf
                      last edited by 29 Jun 2015, 13:58 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • G
                        Giles
                        IHUK Crew
                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                        I'd go same actual waist size, the rise won't make a lot of difference.  If you buy tag 32 in the 555 I think they end up at about the same size as the 666.

                        Caveat - This is not an exact science…... 😃 😃

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          neph93
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                          @Giles:

                          I'd go same actual waist size, the rise won't make a lot of difference.  If you buy tag 32 in the 555 I think they end up at about the same size as the 666

                          Yeah, i remember you suggesting there is a little more stretch here than the 21oz.

                          Another caveat - Giles always knows best [emoji6]

                          “Some of those that work forces
                          Are the same that burn crosses”

                          • Virginia Woolf
                          last edited by 29 Jun 2015, 14:29 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • G
                            Giles
                            IHUK Crew
                            Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                            @neph93:

                            Another caveat - Giles always knows best [emoji6]

                            Which obviously proves that @neph93 does not….

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              neph93
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                              Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                              @Giles:

                              @neph93:

                              Another caveat - Giles always knows best [emoji6]

                              Which obviously proves that @neph93 does not….

                              That's a tautology.

                              I'll shut up now [emoji16]

                              “Some of those that work forces
                              Are the same that burn crosses”

                              • Virginia Woolf
                              last edited by 29 Jun 2015, 15:43 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                thegiuce
                                Joined: 29 Jun 2015

                                Huge thanks to Haraki-san and Giles. Looks like I should pop-by Rivet & Hide to swap my 31s for 32s!

                                This bit of info in particular was super helpful:
                                Secondly, generally, the measurements are as is, now. So soaking before wearing will lose you .5. You're new starting point will be 30.5. With wear they'll stretch an inch to 31.5. That being said, I asked G about the stretch with this denim and he got 1.5 on a size 33 (I think, check the thread). So you may well get more than an inch if you need it.

                                last edited by 3 Jul 2015, 12:04 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • B
                                  baz
                                  Joined: 17 Jul 2015

                                  Hi

                                  I have recently purchased some IH-555n. I know these are sanforised but will shrink up to 1 inch in the leg and 1/2 inch in the waist on my first wash. I understand they will then stretch up to an inch in the waist. My  questions are should I wash them before wearing or wait until they have stretched before washing? Also am I likely to loose a lot of indigo in the wash which will effect the contrast in fading with wear? Hence should I wait to wash and wash as little as often.

                                  Thanks
                                  Baz

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                                  • Pavel PipovičP
                                    Pavel Pipovič
                                    Joined: 16 Sept 2014

                                    Soaking a new (sanforized) denim helps to bed the constructional stitching, so i think a (minimum a cold or better a warm) soak should be done before wearing 🙂

                                    last edited by 17 Jul 2015, 16:13 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      neph93
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                                      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                      A cold soak, even on sanforised denim is never a bad idea. Soak first then wear. The problem with wearing them a lot and then washing is that your honeycombs and stacks will be an inch too high after wear because of shrinkage. My advice would be a warm soak to take out all the shrinkage, then wear the fuck out og them. They'll stretch out to fit you. A warm soak without agitation shouldn't affect the indigo or future wear patterns much. Just wear them like you hate them and they'll look boss.

                                      “Some of those that work forces
                                      Are the same that burn crosses”

                                      • Virginia Woolf
                                      last edited by 17 Jul 2015, 16:27 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • B
                                        baz
                                        Joined: 17 Jul 2015

                                        Thanks Guys

                                        last edited by 17 Jul 2015, 18:08 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • julesJ
                                          jules
                                          Raw and Unwashed
                                          Joined: 31 Dec 2011

                                          @Giles is this denim the same as the TW634N ? I have both and denim looks different, this one is stiffer and warps are more grey than tw . I really like both of them but just for now …

                                          last edited by 19 Jul 2015, 12:38 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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