IH-555N - 17oz Selvedge Denim Super Slim Jeans - Natural Indigo

[neph93]

@Giles:

Thanks.  Table fixed, @Madame Buttonfly fired…...

Somehow I doubt the veracity of the second part of this statement.

That aside, these look wonderful, measurements and all. My problem (of course) is that I've currently got 666 XHS (or UHR), 555-03 and 666D, on my theoretical to but list. And now these. Bollocks. I'm paralysed by an abundance of choices.

[Madame Buttonfly]

@Giles:

Thanks.  Table fixed, @Madame Buttonfly fired…...

- what a shame, and I thought I was all set for a promotion this year…!

[neph93]

Btw @Giles would anyone (in the world) know anything about the stretching potential of this denim compared to the 21oz? I know all denim will stretch but my experience of the 21oz is that it stretches a lot (not bad thing imo, as long as you know about it). Is this going to move as much?

[Giles]

I got 1.5" on my TW-666N (same denim)…..

[Giles]

@neph93:

Somehow I doubt the veracity of the second part of this statement.

She's in Spain having a well deserved rest, so I'll give her a second chance, don't want to spoil her hol…..

[neph93]

That's interesting. And good to know. Thanks, as always.

[Chris]

@Madame:

@Giles:

Thanks.  Table fixed, @Madame Buttonfly fired…...

- what a shame, and I thought I was all set for a promotion this year…!
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Not having to do all the work for work with Giles counts as a promotion, doesn't it?

[neph93]

@Giles:

@neph93:

Somehow I doubt the veracity of the second part of this statement.

She's in Spain having a well deserved rest, so I'll give her a second chance, don't want to spoil her hol…..

Haha…Good for her! (I'm jealous).

[GingerMagician]

@Giles:

It is possible.  Lots…...

Excellent, thanks G.

Stellar new beer shop opened up round the corner from me recently, so will be able to bring along some gems.

[Giles]

Unfortunate name….

[GingerMagician]

@Giles:

Unfortunate name….

Ha ha, if only they'd gone for 'Hop, Burns & Black' instead…

(great place, btw - sells beer, hot chilli sauce and vinyl - total heaven)

[Giles]

But not denim…..

[GingerMagician]

@Giles:

But not denim…..

Good point…

[thegiuce]

Quick question on the 555N's.

I own a pair of IH X R&H 666S. I bought a size 31, and they've broken in perfectly. After a bit of necessary stretch, I'm really happy with where the fit has landed.

I'm considering buying some IH 555N and would have normally bought a 31 again, as I would assume the sizing is quite similar. After reading the numbers and a few reviews, it seems like the sizing is different on these, I.E:

• 666S size 31 = 32 in waist
• 555N size 31 = 31 in waist

Given the difference, would you still recommend I stick with a 31 as the rise is higher on the 555N, or would you size up?

Also, I notice that the 555N is described as having 1" stretch, but 0.5" shrinkage. Does that mean that in the end, the waist will still land at 1" larger than I started with (assuming I only cold soak them - and not very often)?

[neph93]

@thegiuce:

Quick question on the 555N's.

I own a pair of IH X R&H 666S. I bought a size 31, and they've broken in perfectly. After a bit of necessary stretch, I'm really happy with where the fit has landed.

I'm considering buying some IH 555N and would have normally bought a 31 again, as I would assume the sizing is quite similar. After reading the numbers and a few reviews, it seems like the sizing is different on these, I.E:

• 666S size 31 = 32 in waist
• 555N size 31 = 31 in waist

Given the difference, would you still recommend I stick with a 31 as the rise is higher on the 555N, or would you size up?

Also, I notice that the 555N is described as having 1" stretch, but 0.5" shrinkage. Does that mean that in the end, the waist will still land at 1" larger than I started with (assuming I only cold soak them - and not very often)?

Hi!

First things first. You're off to a good start because you used the tables. Always use the tables. Actual measurements will vary not just between cuts, but also between versions of cuts (sometimes between runs as well but I understand this is something IH strive to avoid so it's happens rarely.

Secondly, generally, the measurements are as is, now. So soaking before wearing will lose you .5. You're new starting point will be 30.5. With wear they'll stretch an inch to 31.5. That being said, I asked G about the stretch with this denim and he got 1.5 on a size 33 (I think, check the thread). So you may well get more than an inch if you need it.

I's advise measuring your 666S as they are after breaking in. I suspect they're around 33 inches. If you like em there you might consider sizing up on the 555N.

[Giles]

I'd go same actual waist size, the rise won't make a lot of difference.  If you buy tag 32 in the 555 I think they end up at about the same size as the 666.

Caveat - This is not an exact science…...

[neph93]

@Giles:

I'd go same actual waist size, the rise won't make a lot of difference.  If you buy tag 32 in the 555 I think they end up at about the same size as the 666

Yeah, i remember you suggesting there is a little more stretch here than the 21oz.

Another caveat - Giles always knows best [emoji6]

[Giles]

@neph93:

Another caveat - Giles always knows best [emoji6]

Which obviously proves that @neph93 does not….

[neph93]

@Giles:

@neph93:

Another caveat - Giles always knows best [emoji6]

Which obviously proves that @neph93 does not….

That's a tautology.

I'll shut up now [emoji16]

[thegiuce]

Huge thanks to Haraki-san and Giles. Looks like I should pop-by Rivet & Hide to swap my 31s for 32s!

This bit of info in particular was super helpful:
Secondly, generally, the measurements are as is, now. So soaking before wearing will lose you .5. You're new starting point will be 30.5. With wear they'll stretch an inch to 31.5. That being said, I asked G about the stretch with this denim and he got 1.5 on a size 33 (I think, check the thread). So you may well get more than an inch if you need it.