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    • Black OrchidB
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      @Maynard:

      Take Blatt! (and party…)

      Party [emoji2]

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      • FinksterF
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        Yes, going, going, gone [emoji38] Ming is no longer…

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        ^agreed

        Get lost - corrupt bastard!

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        • GilesG
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          http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7693.0

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          • injunjackI
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            shop built so called custom bikes suck big time.  You either do build your chopper/bobber your self in your own garage / backyard  or you don't brag about the result.

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            • GilesG
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              welcome back @injunjack

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              • BobB
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                I was never happy with any of the work I farmed out (track, not road). Did all my own engine and suspension work, and even changed and balanced my own tires, as I considered it tantamount to packing one's own chute. But I did let a strange factory in a foreign land build the bike. @injunjack:

                shop built so called custom bikes suck big time.  You either do build your chopper/bobber your self in your own garage / backyard  or you don't brag about the result.

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                • BobB
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                  I neither believe Team Sky's results, nor the results of the riders in and around their paddock.

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                  • Megatron1505M
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                    Someone needs to explain to me how Real McCoys doing Buco named gear is any different to the American clothing company who licensed the name Von Dutch?

                    And I won't be accepting "but Real McCoys stuff is really well made, in Japan" as answer. So are many brands who aren't riding the Buco name.

                    Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                    • dylantbmayesD
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                      Is anyone claiming that it's not the same, @Megatron1505?

                      It's licensing…

                      INSTAGRAM: @DYLANTBMAYES | FACEBOOK.COM/DYLANTBMAYES

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                        ^Is this an issue somewhere Mega? Sounds like there's a backstory not here Mega??

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                          Whats the background/issue Gav? They licensed it, like freewheelers licensed stifel etc

                          Cheers,
                          David

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                          • Megatron1505M
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                            No back story.

                            Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                              I believe rmc owns now the license for buco brand (bügeleisen) but as with our japanese friends sometimes it's a bit complicated to keep the overview

                              Cheers,
                              David

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                              • Megatron1505M
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                                Then I guess my point being that the licensing of an iconic brand name, particularly when that name represent an individual, seems a little shallow and vacuous whether it is Buco or Von Dutch.

                                I get that the execution is markedly different in terms of quality, but still…

                                I like that brands are influenced by the classics, that's why they are classics, and interpreting or tweaking is one thing, but adding a label bearing the mans name just comes off a little lame to me.

                                Unpopular opinion  😉

                                Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                • dylantbmayesD
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                                  Was Buco not originally a brand though, started by Joseph Buegeleisen?

                                  Von Dutch was an artist whose works were licensed and turned into a brand, like with Don Ed Hardy.

                                  INSTAGRAM: @DYLANTBMAYES | FACEBOOK.COM/DYLANTBMAYES

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                                  • Megatron1505M
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                                    Buco was an amalgamation of his name and the word corporation Bu-Co.

                                    I understand the mechanics of why, I just don't think it's right.

                                    Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                      I'm still confused as to what you're trying to say, in either example.

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                                      • SeulS
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                                        @Megatron1505:

                                        Unpopular opinion  😉

                                        Plus he's a fucking ginger…

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                                          beautiful_FrEaK
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                                          Same could be said about the Lee (Originals or Archives) that are licensed to Edwin, Warehouse and RMC?!

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                                            So the opinion is Mega doesn't like Brand Licensing? got it 🙂

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