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    IH-634-XHS - 25oz Selvedge Denim Straight Cut Jeans - Indigo

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    • Megatron1505M
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      Also, there are so many other IH models that do have all these added bells and whistles that if they really are important to people it isn't like they don't have a pair of jeans you could buy.

      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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      • DionD
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        My thoughts are, since the 634 is that important and well selling, it may include these features, too, so many more people can see / enjoy them. They don't hurt but add even more quality to these already astonishing jeans and its unique denim. I didn't know it lacked those details because they are for me - personally - a trademark of IH that distinguish them from other brands additionally. At the end of the day G and H decide whether they want to update.

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        • GilesG
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          Actually, the details on the 634S are the trademark, everything else I've added…... 😉 😉 😉

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          • ChrisC
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            I don't love lined pockets- I live in a hot, humid climate and the extra layer of fabric makes my ass sweat more.

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            • seawolfS
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              @den213:

              They don't hurt but add even more quality.

              How do these details add more quality? Are you saying that the current design is inferior?

              @Chris:

              I don't love lined pockets- I live in a hot, humid climate and the extra layer of fabric makes my ass sweat more.

              Agreed.  I like the option to not have them on my classic 634S.

              “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

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              • DionD
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                I'm sure you're able to read the complete sentence.

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                • seawolfS
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                  @den213:

                  They don't hurt but add even more quality to these already astonishing jeans and its unique denim.

                  Sure thing. Let me try again with the complete sentence. How do these details add more quality? Are you saying that the current design is inferior? I guess what I'm getting at here, is do extra selvedge lines add to the quality of the jeans? Are you saying that fewer selvedge lines make for a product with decreased quality? When I think of something of quality, I think of it's durability. for expample, a mass produced leather product stitched with a machine isn't at the same quality level of a leather product that's stitched by hand. There's an obvious quality difference there. Do sewn in belt loops add to the quality? Are you saying that because the current 634 design doesn't have this feature that they're of lesser quality? Should I be asking Iron Heart for a refund because my jeans are inferior and will fall apart prematurely at the belt loops?

                  “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                  @zeebeeleather

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                  • DionD
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                    Dude, no one said the current 634 is inferior, relax. You have your view on the details and so do I… and many others as well.

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                    • seawolfS
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                      Relax? You were being a little brash, don't you think? Just having a conversation.

                      @den213:

                      I'm sure you're able to read the complete sentence.

                      “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                      @zeebeeleather

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                      • DionD
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                        No, I don't think so because I'm not the one who seems to be offended by someone's views.

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                        • GilesG
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                          It's a pair of jeans people…..

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • seawolfS
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                            @den213:

                            No, I don't think so because I'm not the one who seems to be offended by someone's views.

                            Not offended. Just trying to understand where your comments about quality are coming from.

                            “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                            @zeebeeleather

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                            • seawolfS
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                              @Giles:

                              It's a pair of jeans people…..

                              It's fun to argue about minutia 🙂

                              “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                              @zeebeeleather

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                              • DionD
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                                @seawolf:

                                @Giles:

                                It's a pair of jeans people…..

                                It's fun to argue about minutia 🙂

                                Life is all about minutiae ;). It's all good.

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                                  They're just jeans guys!

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                                  • Megatron1505M
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                                    JEANS ARE LIFE BRA!!!

                                    Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                    • seawolfS
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                                      Just jeans, and probably the most ubiquitous clothing article in the world!  Certainly not worth getting too worked up about them, but certainly something we can all agree we're passionate about.

                                      “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                                      @zeebeeleather

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                                        I'm not trying to stoke any fires here, but most of the other 634 models have the details that I was hoping for on the 634-XHS - selvedge fly, sewn-in belt lops, lined rear pockets.

                                        These details do not add to the quality of construction, but are appealing to the wearing - in this case me! Except I think a selvedge fly is a detail that improves quality over a lock-stitched cut edge where the stitching can fray.

                                        I'm not trying to be bitchy, cynical or critical, but where do you draw the line on a design issue like this? What details do you add on on what spin-offs of the base design?

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                                        • madmondayM
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                                          recall when the 301s didn't have selvedge id, & it was a big deal  to a few of us & we went over all the reasons it could & couldn't happen? 
                                          then a few years later BOOM, 301s have selvedge id.

                                          IMHO, it takes up too much bandwidth to change those few details that only a very small portion of the community is asking about. the factories get what it takes to make 634s with their eyes closed at this point. to go in & change it is probably a pain in the ass that isn't needed, but keep voicing your opinion cause who knows, in another few years if enough folks b!tch & moan, maybe, just maybe they will change all those small but so important details

                                          head high, middle finger higher

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                                          • seawolfS
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                                            @mpukas:

                                            Except I think a selvedge fly is a detail that improves quality over a lock-stitched cut edge where the stitching can fray.

                                            Now this makes sense!

                                            “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                                            @zeebeeleather

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