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    DWC - Denim World Championships 2015 - 2017

    Heavy Weight Contests & Competitions
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    • S
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      Chambray != Denim, so it's out IMO.

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      • Megatron1505M
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        The debate finally got going, and on social media too. Consensus seemed mainly to be that duck is ok as a harder fabric but chambray and linen take away the hardcore nature of the contest so they are out.

        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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        • GilesG
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          I bet some of our Chambray is heaver than some of the denim being entered…..

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          • Megatron1505M
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            I know it is  😠

            Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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            • GraemeG
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              I thought that Chambray was pretty much a lighter weave of canvas.

              I did ask @Megatron1505 about Herringbone and Hickory the other day, which are different weaves of denim-like fabrics, but got told no. I'd have thought that Wabash would count too as it's effectively denim with bleach spots on it.

              My view would be that if you're allowing Duck then all of the above are variations on cotton fabrics that are differentiated by their weaves, and so should be eligible.

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              • Megatron1505M
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                Like I said over on SuFu, it was opened up for discussion on the forums and social media and the majority went against it.

                Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                • Megatron1505M
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                  For anyone still on the fence about this….

                  http://denimworldchampionship.com/10-reasons-to-join-the-dwc/

                  Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                  • JCMx800J
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                    Chambray, Canvas, Duck is not denim, Wabash should be a possible choice because its 3x1 twill weave just like denim, just with a colored warp/weft and the bleached dots.
                    Like Giles said in another thread -> 100 people, 101 opinions.
                    Gavin, I am sure you will do the right, it´s your contest, you can do whatever the feck you want. Somebody don´t like it? He/She should start his/her own contest.

                    Les Paul -> ProCo Rat -> Super HardOn -> JCM800 Low Input
                    XXX

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                    • GilesG
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                      @Graeme:

                      I thought that Chambray was pretty much a lighter weave of canvas.

                      It is true that they are both typically plain (1/1) weave.  Though it is possible to find canvas in a 2/1.

                      Chambray:
                      Chambray gets its name from Cambrai, a linen weaving town in Northern France where the fabric was first made. Originally linen, chambray is now usually cotton or a cotton blend. It is characterised by dyed warp yarns and undyed (white) weft yarns. It is a plain weave fabric and can be found in light to moderately heavy weights. The variations include stripes and checks as well as dobby-woven patterns.

                      Canvas
                      The name canvas comes from Latin for hemp—cannabis—as canvas was originally made of hemp or linen. Now it is usually cotton or linen. Canvas is virtually synonymous with duck which is a strong, firm, plain weave fabric. Many grades, weights and qualities are made.

                      Duck
                      A broad category of strong, closely constructed plain weave fabrics. The term duck is often used interchangeably with canvas. It is available in very firm heavy weights, as well as softer, lighter weights. Duck is most often cotton, but can sometimes be a cotton blend or linen. It can be unbleached, bleached, printed or dyed.

                      There seems to be some discrepancy about the name duck, with various sources claiming it resists water like a duck, or that it is derived from the Dutch doek (linen canvas). The most picturesque explanation for the name is that sails made in England and Scotland, imported to the US before the 19th century, were printed with logos depending upon their weights—lighter sails stenciled with a raven, those heavier with a duck.

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • mclaincauseyM
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                        I bought denim to enter into a denim contest. Had I known the definition would be so loose I would have bought Loombreakers

                        Think it, be it.

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                        • trail and arrowT
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                          denim or duck (or chambray, herringbone, hickory) i don' give a fuck!

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                            @mclaincausey:

                            I bought denim to enter into a denim contest. Had I known the definition would be so loose I would have bought Loombreakers

                            Yeah, seemed pretty simple, not that I care either way. Mega's getting the fans blowing early tho, it's good to see some passion, regardless 🙂

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                            • GraemeG
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                              @trail:

                              denim or duck (or chambray, herringbone, hickory) i don' give a fuck!

                              I thought that in @trail and arrow world:

                              Duck > Denim

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                              • louisboscoL
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                                been reading the comments and views. my 2c would be, the name itself is a denim competition/championship. and it should be denim based and denim only. why would there even be a thought of something else in the first place.

                                "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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                                • mclaincauseyM
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                                  Agreed. There are words like "jeans" that could connote a broader definition, but denim is also a word and words mean things. Ok done with negativity / irritation now. 🙂

                                  Think it, be it.

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                                  • trail and arrowT
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                                    Adopt, adapt and improve!

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                                    • Megatron1505M
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                                      The decision to include duck was made early and has been included since day 1 press releases and on the website, I have also mentioned it many times in posts. The flirtation with including other fabrics was to canvass opinion, this has been done, arguments were made and a decision taken.

                                      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                      • mclaincauseyM
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                                        @Megatron1505:

                                        The flirtation with including other fabrics was to canvass opinion

                                        I see what you did there

                                        Think it, be it.

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                                        • Megatron1505M
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                                          Good spot  😃

                                          Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                          • louisboscoL
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                                            @mclaincausey:

                                            @Megatron1505:

                                            The flirtation with including other fabrics was to canvass opinion

                                            I see what you did there

                                            i didn't…. 😞

                                            "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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