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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Collection Preview - Now Live

    IH-777S-21 - Super-Slim Tapered 21oz Indigo Selvedge Jean - VERSION 1

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    • Bingo BallerB
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      @den213:

      @Giles May I propose my thoughts on the upcoming improvements on the 777-cut? You're planning to lower the rise and my concern is that this is against IH's own philosophy because those jeans that barely cover the butt are only today's fashion and IH doesn't follow and doesn't have to (this is the greatest part of it). Additionally it'd be very odd to see someone with such a cut and an IH-patch on it. The other tweaks are great (the bigger thigh and the slightly smaller hem) but only as long as the rear rise stays in fashionless / comfortable regions to guarantee it will be a classic shape in 20 years.

      I respectfully disagreed. For me as a middle aged man with no arse, its not.about fashion but all about comfort.
      Both of my pairs of IH in 666s & BB 31/32 have rear rises of 15"+ and it gives me a saggy behind as rise is too high for my frame, the jeans fit great everywhere else though.
      I'm sure a small reduction isnt going amount to us seeing everyones underwear.

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      • DionD
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        @Giles:

        I hear you, but if it was against Haraki's philosophy I can 100% assure you it would not be being done…..H and I know we need to differentiate it from the 555.

        Other views?

        The 555 is great, it'd be even greater with a more fitted top-block, roomier thighs and the same small hem = this is what the 777 is about (right?). I was just a bit scared of the lower rise (the front one is good but the rear one :-).

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        • GilesG
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          I think it's horses for courses.  The 555 and the 777 are meant to be different so they different body types and desired "look".

          I don't want to merge the 777 into a 555 or vice versa.  One may prove to be popular and the other not.  Though I suspect both will sell well.

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          • PeterP
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            Slightly larger thighs, slightly smaller hem and a lower rise; the perfect cut, at least for me.

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            • DionD
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              I'll wait for the updated 777… the first edition sells quite well, doesn't it?

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              • GilesG
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                Yes it does, but we are out of some sizes in the 555 which may account for some of those sales…...

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                • Haddtoo 555H
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                  For me the 555 reigns supreme….probs because I downsize end stretch the waist.... the top block is spot on, on me.

                  The trip 7's look intriguing .....except for the hemmmm....we are all different....kudos for the different cuts

                  madmonday's retired….I'm just tired.

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                  • xtcclassicX
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                    Call me crazy but I like the measurements where they are now, at least in my size range (normally 33, but I'd take a 34 in these). When I look at measurements for the 555 and 666 in these sizes, they don't seem all that similar to me. As for the rise, I wouldn't lower it by more than 1 cm. The thigh, knee, and hem measurements seem perfect as is. If you increase the thigh measurement and decrease the hem measurement, that's when it starts looking like the 555 IMHO.

                    Here we go with the "ask a hundred assholes, get 101 opinions" conundrum. 😃

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                    • GilesG
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                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • SeulS
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                        It's been a while since you had to use that, G!..  😉

                        I agree with xtc though: love the measurements on this pair, but completely understand the need for a substantial difference with eg. the 555 series…

                        I think this is a good way to reach a whole new spectrum of potential customers... On a private forum I attend, many people said these would be their first pair of IHs...

                        And cause I'm not some selfish snob, I can only say the more people wear IH, the merrier...

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                        • L
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                          Throwing 2 cents into the well. Wouldn't mind a rise of 9.5 in a size 32 on this fit. Everything else is pretty great. I can understand the votes for bigger thighs but I like the current measurements; I'd just increase the knee 1/2cm.

                          Anyway, that IH has an active dialogue with it's customers about its product is one of several things that will keep me coming back. You know what you're doing Giles, cheers!

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                          • daynymD
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                            I am in for the lower rise as well. Wouldn´t mind 1-1,5 inches less in sz.33/34.The other measurements are ok so far. What you think, Giles? Will the tweaked version be available at fnc?

                            why so serious?

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                            • GilesG
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                              Possible…..

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • Jordonf9J
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                                Can't wait to see the next batch and fit, well and other denim too 😛

                                Everyone wants their perfect fit, but it is trying to find that perfect in between for everyone. I think all looks good fit wise, just a little smaller hem. 8-8.25" hem with a 37.5" or so waist=glorious!

                                So how long till we see a nice unsanforized, or possibly even a loomstate 777? 🙂

                                Keep up the good work.

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                                • A
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                                  Will this cut ever come out in the Super black? This is the exact cut ive been looking for from IH. I had the 301 in indigo and missed them in black and have been waiting for something else to come out ever since! Either way these look great.

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                                  • 501IH5
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                                    Adding my vote in favour of a (not exaggeratedly) lowered rise.

                                    Keep your jeans on–-and let nothing come in between you and the denim !

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                                    • GilesG
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                                      If the new cut works well, we will see it in many different guises….

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      • Jordonf9J
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                                        Sounds good. I will be waiting for a 25oz, raw/unsanforized indigo/indigo or indigo/black denim in the next year or two 🙂

                                        I will be your first customer if they come around.

                                        But can't wait to see what you guys come up with the next year or so with the 777

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                                        • PeterP
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                                          Raw 18oz with a slightly tweaked fit and I'm sold. First pair of IH jeans, and I've been lurking around since 2009. What's wrong with me haha..?

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                                          • DionD
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                                            @Peter:

                                            Raw 18oz with a slightly tweaked fit and I'm sold. First pair of IH jeans, and I've been lurking around since 2009. What's wrong with me haha..?

                                            Wooot? Knowing about IH for a couple of years and finally bought my first pair last year. After having an IH-jeans every other denim becomes suddenly inferior. If you're looking for the best, this can only be IH and that's why we're here.

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