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    IHF Photo Book - Vol1

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    • dylantbmayesD
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      @Megatron1505:

      … the concept has to come first along with the framework of the idea, otherwise we're getting costs for what exactly?

      The budget should really come first, otherwise you've developed an idea without the money to produce it…

      @Megatron1505:

      Wow, you Aussies are such fun guys to invite to a party  😞

      😉  😉  😉
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      For the record, Snowy and I are the type of guests that bring refreshments and cake to a party 😉

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      • Megatron1505M
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        How can you set a budget if you don't know what you're budgeting for? Am I missing something here Dylan?

        I'd feel pretty dumb approaching a printers or publishers and asking them to quote me for "a book", with no idea what type, size, pages, content etc… How can you get accurate costing?

        No-one likes vegan refreshments....well no-one fun  😉

        Edit: Apart from which T&A has said twice that he will talk to his printers, so lets see what comes from that as a yardstick.

        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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        • ChrisC
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          This reminds me a lot of the Self Edge/Sidney Lo book, Taking Pictures of People Taking Pictures of Themselves.

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          • dylantbmayesD
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            @Megatron1505:

            Edit: Apart from which T&A has said twice that he will talk to his printers, so lets see what comes from that as a yardstick.

            That is my point… You need some idea (yardstick) of costs, to set constraints, before developing the concept further.

            T&A is the only one to have suggested the format and scale of publication, and although a lot have expressed interest none have put a dollar (Pound or Euro) value on their interest.

            I'm honestly not trying to crash the party, I just don't want it to end at 10pm... (continued party reference, fuck yeah)

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            • louisboscoL
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              also. how many copies are we even looking at producing? what would each of us be prepared to pay? and of course like you've all mentioned, the production costs?

              "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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              • Megatron1505M
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                Guys, at the moment this is nothing more than an idea, a fun little thought exercise which seems to have captured the imagination of quite a few of us. It's a little early in the evening to be asking for the bill (party reference ahoy), when we just started talking about the night out.

                I've asked who would be interested, people are, if we want to have a little fun exploring the idea then why not?

                My wife also works with a printers and will also talk to them about a costing, but just because that information isn't available right away for 2 day old idea I don't think it should stop people from enjoying the idea, and exploring the concept.

                This might happen, it might not. I think we're all adult to realise that aren't we?

                Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                • CutlasshoundC
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                  Of course old chap [emoji39]

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                  I ain't got time to bleed.

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                  • SeulS
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                    WHERE'S THE FREAKIN BOOK ALREADY?..

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                    • S
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                      @Megatron1505:

                      How can you set a budget if you don't know what you're budgeting for? Am I missing something here Dylan?

                      I'd feel pretty dumb approaching a printers or publishers and asking them to quote me for "a book", with no idea what type, size, pages, content etc… How can you get accurate costing?

                      No-one likes vegan refreshments....well no-one fun  😉

                      Edit: Apart from which T&A has said twice that he will talk to his printers, so lets see what comes from that as a yardstick.

                      @Snowy:

                      I printed a 72 page magazine DPI/quality, archival grade thick paper hard cover book, 1 off, using adoramapix recently, cost me $150USD. (size is 8x12)

                      I would be using ^ (that) as a yardstick, #pages, quality, size, and cover listed. It was retail pricing and a very high quality product/result.

                      I'm waiting for T&A's comments on what that looks like before proceeding further. Photographs are not in A4/A3/A5 sizing, Nor Legal or Letter sizes, they're in 8x12, 6x8 etc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photo_print_sizes) ,which is why I listed the sizing I did. I have Sidney's book, it's lovely, but every photo in there has been edited/cropped to fit A4, instead of as was shot.

                      Party wise, I was the DJ truth be known, now I sit in the corner reading my kindle with earplugs in. We're the craziest bunch this way 😮

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                      • Megatron1505M
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                        A coverstation with a local printer this morning has yielded a very reasonable unit price. I was extremely specific about quality requirements, number of pages (expected), cover and binding but to be absolutely sure I will visit them next Friday with a very nice quality book with I will use an the example of the expected standard.

                        More thrilling news on costing as it happens folks…

                        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                        • trail and arrowT
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                          @snowy
                          i wouldn't.

                          the book you did was printed digital i guess. we should do real print like offset.

                          if you print one book, it will be quite expensive. do 1000 and the price lowers significantly.

                          the size of the book is determined by the master concept behind it, not only by photo formats.

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                          • S
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                            T&A, I stand happily corrected, you are spot on. Thanks!

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                            • S
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                              That makes Sidney's a good starting reference then

                              SPECIFICATIONS
                              A4 Format
                              112 Pages
                              Semi-gloss Print
                              Softcover.

                              Mega, also keen to hear how things progress. Sounds like we're not too far away from knowing if it's worth getting excited or not 🙂

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                              • Megatron1505M
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                                Honestly, I only made the call to the printers so you lot would shut up about bloody costings and steering the discussion away from anything fun  😛

                                I am more than happy and confident that @trail and arrow will provide the yardstick, the design and the concept to suit.

                                Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                • Max PowerM
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                                  Good News! Thanks to all involved!

                                  @elclintor:

                                  > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                                  • mclaincauseyM
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                                    How about a contest for the cover photo? Either way, this is fantastic.

                                    Think it, be it.

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                                    • Megatron1505M
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                                      @mclaincausey:

                                      How about a contest for the cover photo? Either way, this is fantastic.

                                      I like that….

                                      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                      • louisboscoL
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                                        @mclaincausey:

                                        How about a contest for the cover photo?

                                        now we're back to fun…

                                        "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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                                        • SeulS
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                                          ^Agreed!..

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                                          • dylantbmayesD
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                                            Neither 'Denim Dudes' nor 'True Fit' should be used as guides for creating a denim book…

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