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I have to disagree with your school on that one. All risk, zero upside. They're under no obligation to give a straight answer on that and are likely to view you as a 9 to 5er. In general, asking questions that are about self interest over the interests of your potential employer doesn't make much sense to me. Ask a recruiter and they'll tell you the same. If this is an important enough concern (in a first interview, no less) then you can ask things like "take me through a typical day in the role" to derive this kind of information.
they're under no obligation to give a straight answer to it, but the cost of hiring the wrong employee is substantial
http://resources.dice.com/report/the-cost-of-bad-hiring-decisions/
they're not in it to dupe you… this is a two way street, not just a one way street. Self interests are important as well, not just interests of the company. Its like dating.i've asked recruiters before, in fact taken interview classes and given interviews. no one has ever said this was a bad question to ask. additionally, if you were to ask someone at my firm what a day in the typical life was like, you'd never get an ansewr because there is no typical day. I've shadowed interviews where this has happened, and i've been interviewed with the question, and the answer was the same.
again, agree to disagree
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nearly every candidate I've interviewed in the last 2 years (over 300!) has asked that question if they've made it to a face to face interview. I also ask if people mind on-call, and the odd shift work and other weird question as it's totally appropriate to the role.
A lot of the time the guys are after a 9-5 and the role is not that and they appreciate hearing it clearly as it helps them find their role and saves us both time.
I sit on the fence between you on this one
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I'll agree to disagree on the merits of asking that question, particularly early in the process, but to pivot , I can't think of a job that wouldn't have an answer to what a typical day is. If they can't answer that, then they don't understand the role that they're hiring for, or they're being evasive . A typical day and daily activities always being the same every day are two entirely different things. And this is a manufacturing gig.
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Today I've had to deal with a case of domestic abuse, and a shortage of connectors named after a popular Disney character. Pretty varied days at present :-\
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Is there a way to write a job description for what you do? If there is, then there is a way to answer that question. It's a typical, even cliche, question to ask, so they should be prepared to answer it.
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Today I've had to deal with a case of domestic abuse, and a shortage of connectors named after a popular Disney character. Pretty varied days at present :-\
YOU WORK WITH ALADDIN!?!
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@megatron wishing you all the luck for tomorrow, they would be foolish to say the least not to take you on… All the best [emoji256]
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@Megatron1505 , good luck tomorrow in your job interview buddy.
something they often ask at the end of the interview is; "do you have any questions for me / us"
to which i always answer; "when do i start, tomorrow or monday?"
i think this is know as a presumptive close. try it ?
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Thanks guys, fingers crossed
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something they often ask at the end of the interview is; "do you have any questions for me / us"
to which i always answer; "when do i start, tomorrow or monday?"
i think this is know as a presumptive close. try it ?
Never heard that , but man do I love it! If I feel good about a role I might just give that a go
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Just got back, waiting to hear how it went as there are other candidates but fingers crossed. Thanks for the positive vibes guys
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Hope you get the job Mega and if not at least you like where you are .
Cheers
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Thanks man.
@Snowy , sorry I just saw your comment dude. Rapport was good, place is family run and going through rapid expansion, only minor negative being that I got the feeling that they didn't really know why they wanted to hire a Production Manager. Like they suddenly thought "shit we're growing….we should probably get someone in to run this thing". I ended up telling them more about what the job should involve than they told me, in a good way though.
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Sounds like it went well @Megatron1505, so fingers crossed you get it. (Assuming you want to go there.)
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Update guys, I didn't get the job. The feedback I got is that they chose someone with hands on experience of operating CNC machines, I could have argued that is not what they advertised for, and that it has absolutely zero benefit for the role of a Production Manager (so long as you know timings and capacity you don't need to know how to actually programme the damn things), but it would have been irrelevant.
Thank you all so much for your time and advice on this, I will keep applying for other positions as a change is needed after over 17 years. This whole exercise has shown what this thread was made for
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Onwards and Upwards Mega [emoji4]
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