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    Chris
    Raw and Unwashed
    Joined: 28 Jun 2010

    What's the market like for Belstaff jackets in the UK?  EBay listings in the US are overrun with professional sellers listing them with Buy It Now prices that aren't worth the effort.

    The company's retail network is pretty terrible, too…

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      Aetas
      見習いボス
      Joined: 19 Jun 2013

      @Megatron1505:

      Thanks guys, it just struck me as odd, I love Trialmasters and as you say it really should not have been that cheap.

      Seven years ago, I got a Trialmaster from 1967 on bay. Perfect condition and a reasonable price. Fingers crossed Mega.

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        Megatron1505
        見習いボス
        Joined: 10 Jul 2011

        Belstaff used to be made in Staffordshire up until about 12 years ago when they were bought out by an Italian fashion house who moved the brand (lock, stock and barrel) to Milan. New Belstaff gear is fucking shit, fashion crap at unbelievable prices (new Sammy Miller Trialmasters are £750), and they do capsule collections with David Beckham (which weirdly feature in Lightning magazine).

        Belstaff gear made from the 50's to the mid 70's is incredible, 8oz hand waxed cotton, lightning zippers, some of the genuine toughest gear around. The market for original gear is (and always has been) very good.

        Belstaff are a weird brand, the passionate hatred for the new gear is counter balanced by the passionate love of the early gear. My personal opinion (ever since I saw my Uncles Trialmaster when I was a kid), is that the Belstaff Trialmaster is the finest piece of English clothing design and manufacture ever, I would absolutely love to see H give his take on it.

        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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          Megatron1505
          見習いボス
          Joined: 10 Jul 2011

          This is it, Belstaff Trialmaster, Sammy Miller Professional.

          Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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            trail and arrow
            Joined: 7 Jul 2013

            want!

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              Chris
              Raw and Unwashed
              Joined: 28 Jun 2010

              Yeah, an IH Trialmaster could be fantastic.  l know this is heresy, but I'd especially like it if it stayed "lightweight".  You know, 8-10 oz waxed duck (olive or chocolate brown), a chambray lining and that's it.  Perfect three season jacket.

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                Megatron1505
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                Joined: 10 Jul 2011

                It's not for Texas, and never will be. Heavy flannel lining all the way  😉

                Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                  Chris
                  Raw and Unwashed
                  Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                  Ok, chambray may be a bit too light, but I meant three season jacket for places that have seasons.  Light flannel would be good; just don't make it something like a long version of the IHM-09.

                  And by the way, this week's weather in Houston has been absolutely English- 40s and raining.  One of the rare times when a warm jacket would be good.

                  As for Belstaff's current, more fashionable, offerings, I'm weirdly drawn to this one, but I'd have to find it at much, much less than retail…

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                    Megatron1505
                    見習いボス
                    Joined: 10 Jul 2011

                    That jacket is quite possibly the most disgusting thing I have seen on this forum since Seuls Dior boots  😠

                    Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

                    last edited by 12 Jan 2015, 09:40 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      Giles
                      IHUK Crew
                      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                      Come on @Megatron1505 it's "crafted with cotton sourced from a historical British mill"

                      Oh wait, the Titanic is old, British and historical

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        Megatron1505
                        見習いボス
                        Joined: 10 Jul 2011

                        So are we @Giles  😉

                        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                          seawolf
                          Mod Squad
                          Joined: 28 Oct 2011

                          @Chris:

                          I'm weirdly drawn to this one

                          Weirdly is right.

                          “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                          @zeebeeleather

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                            Chris
                            Raw and Unwashed
                            Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                            C'mon- it's a contemporary icon of style and utility.  How could that be bad?

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                              Megatron1505
                              見習いボス
                              Joined: 10 Jul 2011

                              It looks like something that was auctioned from Neverland after Michael Jackson died.

                              Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                Giles
                                IHUK Crew
                                Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                And was made out of his skin….

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  Seul
                                  Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                                  @Megatron1505:

                                  That jacket is quite possibly the most disgusting thing I have seen on this forum since Seuls Dior boots  😠

                                  Agreed.

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                                    Chris
                                    Raw and Unwashed
                                    Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                                    @Megatron1505:

                                    It looks like something that was auctioned from Neverland after Michael Jackson died.

                                    Again, how could that be bad?

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                                      Megatron1505
                                      見習いボス
                                      Joined: 10 Jul 2011

                                      Ask McCauley and Bubbles  😶

                                      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                        TheHappyHatter
                                        Joined: 20 Jul 2014

                                        @Megatron1505:

                                        That jacket is quite possibly the most disgusting thing I have seen on this forum since Seuls Dior boots  😠

                                        From my man @Megatron1505's post I have drawn up an IH forum's Most Disgusting Thing Timeline:
                                        <–---- Seul's Dior boots in 2010
                                        <–------ Belstaff Racemaster Jacket in 2015

                                        The funny thing is this would be just an average day on Styleforum  😃
                                        LOVE IH forum 😘

                                        @derivative666:

                                        > this dude is a rock star.

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                                          jdl1279
                                          Joined: 3 Jan 2014

                                          I smell a new thread coming on

                                          Bourbon: because living in Kentucky just makes you want to drink

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