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    • SeulS
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      Packed some beers for a trade with a yank… Bombproof packaging... Added a lil extra bottle... Hauled it to the postoffice in the pouring rain... Clerk puts it on the scale: 5.1 kgs... 0-5 kg = 32.8 €, 5-10 kg = 65 €.

      Took it back home, opened it up, took out the extra, closed it again, back to the PO in a bit.

      😞

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      • GilesG
        Giles
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        @Seul:

        Took it back home, opened it up, drank the extra, closed it again, back to the PO in a bit.

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        • JCMx800J
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          Today I got a letter from the local tax office. I go to school, don't have a real job, feck off. Dickheads.

          Les Paul -> ProCo Rat -> Super HardOn -> JCM800 Low Input
          XXX

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          • SeulS
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            Whether's not bad enough to wear me 107… On the contrary: sun's out and it's gonna be 22C° today!.. BASTARDS!.. HAVE YOU NO MERCY FOR A FLANNEL LOVING MAN!..

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            • GraemeG
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              I've had a first round interview with a company for an interesting sounding contract, but it's come back to the dreaded home test.

              There are two parts: One is a set of questions asking how I'd set up a user test to see if a new system was better than the old one. They want two alternative sets of metrics, and a plan of how it would be approached. I don't have a clue how to do this, as I write code for a living, and am not generally part of the design or optimisation team. Besides, as a freelancer I almost always join a project when there's a pressing need to get it out of the door.

              So far I've written about a thousand words on it. I'm halfway through, and probably need a couple more hours to complete it. But I'm really feeling like I can't be bothered.

              The second is to write a native Android app to hit a Flickr API, pull down a list of images with their metadata, and display them with a slick UI. OK, so I need to roll a HTTP call, which is pretty simple. Then decode a piece of XML, that can be done in Jackson. The UI could be done pretty basically using using a list adapter or similar, but if you want slick then it gets to be a lot more work.

              Normally these tests come with a clause that they must be production quality. So I suppose that I could hack up an uncommented mudball of spaghetti code. (If you're not a professional nerd, that means it barely works, is needlessly complex, and can't be understood by another programmer.) That's what a large chunk of systems are like in the real world. But if you're doing it properly, then it'll be fully commented, have decent test coverage, be tested, etc.

              Getting something up and running will probably take a day. Maybe two or three if I want to make something slick, and ensure it's fully tested.

              And that's the trouble. I don't mind spending an hour or so on a job application, but when you start needing to spend one or two days it gets to be too much. Particularly when there's no compensation, and in a lot of cases I don't get any feedback.

              Plus I'm having a real depressive downswing right now, and getting anything done is a struggle. 😞

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              • GilesG
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                Chin up Graeme.  Come down here and spend some money….. 😃 😃

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                • CutlasshoundC
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                  Chin up old chap! The last few job applications that my wife has had to do have been absolute monsters and as I've said to her, once it's done it's done and typically these things are simply a barrier to entry designed to limit the number of applicants. Get it done if you think it's genuinely worth going for the job and then reward yourself with some fine purchases from our good bank account emptying brethren in Gosport…..

                  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                  I ain't got time to bleed.

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                  • rocketR
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                    @Graeme

                    if you are willing to take a small risk, complete part 1 as good as you can and write for part 2 only the needed steps in detail and the time frame you would need to set up a running, full working and completed tested app.

                    And just tell them, Part 1 was a small challange, since it is out of your normal work field…. Part 2 your daily business, no need to proof that one...

                    You would show that you have flexibility and willingness to work in, for you, new / uncommon fields, but also know exactly where your strong points are.

                    rocketrocksrox 🤙🏼🤙🏾

                    It's all humbug, like everywhere
                    R.I.P. Geo

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                    • S
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                      Hi Graeme,

                      Are they not after A/B Testing for part 1? Add Analytics/Click Throughs/Time on site and call it done.

                      Second bit, sounds yuck. Any fancy android SDK front ends? Pump it through that if so. That does sound rather annoying.

                      As Cutlass said, they're probably looking for people willing to go beyond. In my interviews if I get a question wrong, at the next interview I'm expected to have an extremely good answer to the same question again, showing my ability, care diligence and ability to rise above.

                      For the right role, I don't imagine you'll have a problem getting it done. Maybe you should have a few beers, and submit it as a joke, who cares right? If you're not serious about it a 1/2 assed enjoyable attempt might be all they/you need?

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                      • mclaincauseyM
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                        Shit they probably just want to rip off a free test plan and software…

                        Think it, be it.

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                        • GraemeG
                          Graeme
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                          Thanks. It's all very well expecting someone to go beyond, but if it gets to the point that you're having to do a couple of days work for a three month contract…

                          @Giles I'm meaning to make a run down to Gosvegas in the near future. If @Danny RnH doesn't bankrupt me first. :o

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                          • B
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                            @Graeme:

                            I've had a first round interview with a company for an interesting sounding contract, but it's come back to the dreaded home test.

                            There are two parts: One is a set of questions asking how I'd set up a user test to see if a new system was better than the old one. They want two alternative sets of metrics, and a plan of how it would be approached. I don't have a clue how to do this, as I write code for a living, and am not generally part of the design or optimisation team. Besides, as a freelancer I almost always join a project when there's a pressing need to get it out of the door.

                            So far I've written about a thousand words on it. I'm halfway through, and probably need a couple more hours to complete it. But I'm really feeling like I can't be bothered.

                            The second is to write a native Android app to hit a Flickr API, pull down a list of images with their metadata, and display them with a slick UI. OK, so I need to roll a HTTP call, which is pretty simple. Then decode a piece of XML, that can be done in Jackson. The UI could be done pretty basically using using a list adapter or similar, but if you want slick then it gets to be a lot more work.

                            Normally these tests come with a clause that they must be production quality. So I suppose that I could hack up an uncommented mudball of spaghetti code. (If you're not a professional nerd, that means it barely works, is needlessly complex, and can't be understood by another programmer.) That's what a large chunk of systems are like in the real world. But if you're doing it properly, then it'll be fully commented, have decent test coverage, be tested, etc.

                            Getting something up and running will probably take a day. Maybe two or three if I want to make something slick, and ensure it's fully tested.

                            And that's the trouble. I don't mind spending an hour or so on a job application, but when you start needing to spend one or two days it gets to be too much. Particularly when there's no compensation, and in a lot of cases I don't get any feedback.

                            Plus I'm having a real depressive downswing right now, and getting anything done is a struggle. 😞

                            question 1: speed city.  is it faster? memory footprint? cpu usage? i always work like i'm peeling an onion.  start at the outer level.  then go inwards.  next thing you know you've written skeleton functions for 10 layers and you finally got to the 10 lines of critical code that at that point are VERY easy to write since you've been so dilligently writing earlier… basically how i design stuff. it tends to work well.

                            c++ only:
                            channel stroustrup: when in doubt, use a vector
                            when not channeling stroustrup, use a map
                            lists are bad unless you need iterator validation
                            never seen a deque used
                            sets are near the same as maps, except for not as cool, although there are sometimes when you just need a set
                            hashmaps are iffy unless you have a proprietary implementation
                            multimaps are iffy but sometime the right answer

                            basically just use a bunch of vectors and maps and dont iterate too many times and you're good to go

                            2nd step you're on you're own because i hate xml lol

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                            • JCMx800J
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                              They just dont fit 😞

                              Freshly waxed, sales-thread will be online soon…

                              Les Paul -> ProCo Rat -> Super HardOn -> JCM800 Low Input
                              XXX

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                              • Megatron1505M
                                Megatron1505
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                                What size? Still not sure if those Vibergs are for me or not  😶

                                Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                • JCMx800J
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                                  @Megatron1505 8.5E, but they fit very narrow, more like a 8.5D…
                                  I like the Bergs on you.

                                  Les Paul -> ProCo Rat -> Super HardOn -> JCM800 Low Input
                                  XXX

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                                  • Megatron1505M
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                                    Thanks man, those Whites look sweet shame they didn't work out for you.

                                    Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                    • JCMx800J
                                      JCMx800
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                                      Yes, I never had problems with Whites, but this time…
                                      It's time for some Wescos!

                                      Les Paul -> ProCo Rat -> Super HardOn -> JCM800 Low Input
                                      XXX

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                                      • Megatron1505M
                                        Megatron1505
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                                        Good choice.

                                        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                        • ChrisC
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                                          Raccoons have invaded my attic.  This happened back in the spring and we thought we drove them out.  Now that cooler weather has arrived, they have returned.  We're going to have to have them killed this time.

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                                          • mclaincauseyM
                                            mclaincausey
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                                            Hardy little beasts.

                                            Think it, be it.

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