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    • derivative666D
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      ^this is just silly. Apple is not dead they have the best looking devices the safest, easiest and most reliable OS and seamless integration between their devices.

      Android is clunky and cumbersome. This thread is now starting to fucking piss me off.

      "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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        @derivative666

        Seamless integration, yes. Definitely Apples strength.

        But Android != Android. When one buys a Samsung device this person should expect a ton of bloatware. Try a phone with stock Android the next time, you will be impressed by how smooth it runs.

        Looks are subjective, but imho the Nexus 5 is the sleekest smartphone device I have ever owned. Minimalistic with quality plastics (not sure those 2 words go together well).

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          @Giles:

          @Snowy:

          Bendgate is really interesting, no comments on it either way. PR nightmare for Apple for sure!

          I'm thinking of getting one of these, unbendable and only a little bit bigger…...

          And it has got some real buttons, bazillion times better than a soft keyboard.

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            D, i totally agree with you about software and looks… honestly, the reason why I'm bitching and unhappy is because i rely on apple so much for a cell phone.  If i decide that i don't like what apple does anymore (big screens etc) then I'm just fucked and that worries me.  Every time i use an android phone I'm like wow this is shitty.  It's totally possible that theres one id like but i haven't come across it yet.

            For computers, i'm sure i'll only use macs... luckily, there's nothing thats as volatile in computing for the worse (subjectively), unlike in smartphones.

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            • derivative666D
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              I have the 6 and the size is great I have had every new model design I do not buy "S" models. The 6 is by far the nicest most streamlined comfortable in hand that Apple has released. I played around with a 6+ again today and I think it is to big for me. However it is by far the best looking display I have ever seen.

              "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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                Another weird thing is that i actually dropped it twice when i was playing with it at the store… and the guy next to me did too.  Must'v ebeen a combination of the slickness and the size

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                • derivative666D
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                  I have the apple leather case on mine and it takes away the slickness on the back

                  "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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                  • GilesG
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                    First world problems…..

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      When John Gruber, who mocked people who sit on phones in their back pockets (I do this all day every day with my 6" display phone and it isn't bent

                      Hang on, you ACTUALLY sit on a piece of glass in your back pocket? I can't believe anyone would ever sit on their phone, it's not made to support the pressure of a human over it's surface area. It's a touch interface device on wafter thin glass.

                      I'm not mocking and do believe bendgate to be an issue that shouldn't exist, but can't believe you'd sit on your phone!

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                      • GilesG
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                        I do

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          Okay, did either of you (or any other who do it) have concerns it might break/shatter the first time you did it? I can't help but imagine shared of glass in my ass even at the thought of doing it. (Front right pocket for me).

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                          • seawolfS
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                            Every major phone brand has had issues with bending. The only reason people are making such big deal about this is because it's Apple. I'm sure Apple will handle it with grace, bounce back like they always do, and keep making outstanding products.

                            “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                            @zeebeeleather

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                            • GilesG
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                              @Snowy:

                              Okay, did either of you (or any other who do it) have concerns it might break/shatter the first time you did it?

                              I don't do it often, but if I have to for whatever reason, I will.  To me, a phone, like most things including my clothes, is a tool.  It was to fit in with my lifestyle, not the other way around.  I have the 5 (no idea which version), and it still looks pretty good and is not bent after a year or so of abuse…

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • Megatron1505M
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                                Stop simplifying things Giles, this is a MAJOR issue  :o

                                Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                • mclaincauseyM
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                                  I've always put phones in my back pocket, as my fade patterns will attest. Never had any generation of an iPhone from 3 to 5 ever bend or break due to being in my back pocket, no matter how hard or on what I sit down. Never had my gigantic Nokia bend or break from this, and it's larger than the iPhone 6 Plus.

                                  That shouldn't suddenly change. That's bad design. I don't change my habits to adapt to my tools, and it's a ridiculous thing to expect of your customer–you have to make the phone adapt to the realities of your users, such as people having tight front pockets, or in the case of women, front pockets that might not be able to hold the big phone.

                                  Think it, be it.

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                                    @mclaincausey:

                                    That shouldn't suddenly change. That's bad design. I don't change my habits to adapt to my tools

                                    Not disagreeing with you here. I 100% support that statement, I'm just shocked that you guys do it to begin with. A Nokia 5110 would likely have snapped it's aerial in a back pocket. The Nokia 8210 would have likely snapped the buttons off. From back in those days forwards I'd of been reluctant, either something on the phone breaking or in the modern 1's glass in the ass.

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                                      @seawolf:

                                      Every major phone brand has had issues with bending. The only reason people are making such big deal about this is because it's Apple. I'm sure Apple will handle it with grace, bounce back like they always do, and keep making outstanding products.

                                      I'm interested in how they'll respond. Obviously they have to do something. They can't exactly ship a rubber band this time…

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                                      • ChrisC
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                                        Same solution as the "You're Holding It Wrong" controversy: there are always aftermarket cases for people who insist on not treating it with the respect it deserves.

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                                        • mclaincauseyM
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                                          @Snowy:

                                          @mclaincausey:

                                          That shouldn't suddenly change. That's bad design. I don't change my habits to adapt to my tools

                                          Not disagreeing with you here. I 100% support that statement, I'm just shocked that you guys do it to begin with. A Nokia 5110 would likely have snapped it's aerial in a back pocket. The Nokia 8210 would have likely snapped the buttons off. From back in those days forwards I'd of been reluctant, either something on the phone breaking or in the modern 1's glass in the ass.

                                          Feature phone are so small anyway that they don't really require a back pocket. As phones have been replaced by devices that run phone apps, form factors have "warped" significantly. And I may be a "Hard Ass," but my ass isn't hard enough to present a threat to Gorilla Glass 😃

                                          Think it, be it.

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                                            Snowy, I sit on my phone as well… but the thing is its not like i'm sitting directly on it.  I think that most of the force of your weight is concentrated right in the middle of your ass, whereas if you put your phone in your back pocket it's pretty much in the corner.  Also, its not like the weight is concentrated only on the phone, keep in mind you got a whole  other cheek doing half the grunt work...

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