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    • hecticH
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      The Manhattan is probably my favourite cocktail; I have made a metric fuck tonne (MFT) of these over the years. I thought I would share some experience about nailing the perfect (IMO) Manhattan.

      There are many recipes that you can reference when making a Manhattan, in my experience almost all of them have 2 main issues:

      1. Not enough rye
      2. Too much vermouth

      Even Salvatore Calabrese (who I love) is too heavy handed with the vermouth. My recommendation is (AT LEAST) 100ml of rye per person (I like to use Rittenhouse or Sazerac, Pikesville is a good, slightly lower cost, option. Obviously there are many more ryes you could use, but price may dictate your selection).

      Maximum vermouth (I like to use Lillet Rouge) usage is 10ml per person, so a 10:1 ratio, this may seem low but you can always add a tiny bit more. What you need to avoid is the “winey” notes of the vermouth over-powering the heady liquor hit of the rye.

      For the bitters I use Angostura, but you could make your own, this is a good book: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bitters-Spirited-Cure-All-Cocktails-Formulas/dp/1580083595. As with the vermouth, less is more – 2 shakes of the standard Angostura bottle per person is more than enough. As with all recipes – taste during build and before serving.

      IMPORTANT – chill the glass, either by leaving the glasses in the freezer of using ice and water in the glass for 10 minutes before serving.

      Cherries – you need cherries. The supermarket ones in syrup are acceptable and some palates like the extra sweetness imparted by the gomme, but fresh cherries (slight slashed with a knife) or cherries steeped in booze (brandy or liquor of your choice) are the best. Minimum 2 cherries per person, 3 if they look forlorn.

      There are two main builds/presentation.

      In a classic cocktail glass, no ice. This is more suited to mixed company when a genteel air is required. Example (Manhattan is on the right):

      If there is a surfeit of oxblood leather wingback chairs and a preponderance of male consumers then a presentation with a big fucking chunk of ice is desirable (multiple ice cubes should be avoided as dilution becomes excessive – I use these: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ice-Ball-Moulds-Silicone-Sphere/dp/B007SDDASG). Example (no cherry variant):

      Enjoy, experiment, get fucked up.

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      • trail and arrowT
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        thanks hectic, great post! manhattan is my favourites as well,
        and you are damn right with the whisky/vermouth ratio.
        one thing i like to add is, the importance of the right bitter.
        if you chose angostura there is a great difference.

        the one made from angostura bark is to avoid.
        the bitter named after the city angostura is the on, IMO.

        the both nearly look the same but the paperlable of the good
        one reaches over the bottle shoulders and covers a part of the bottelneck as well.
        cheers!

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        • hecticH
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          ^ excellent point re: bitters, thanks.

          Trivia: the reason the paper label on the Angostrura is over sized is because of an original printing error and they have kept it like that ever since.

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          • trail and arrowT
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            i'm not a fan of the octave concept
            but this one is a simply outstanding single single malt!

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            • FOXYF
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              Sounds great, would like to try…

              Coming back to the discussion about the recent release politics of established, commercial distilleries:
              That is exactly the reason why I switched to gin. I still buy the occasional bottle of whisky, but it's not the same...

              Some pictures from the weekend:









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              • SeulS
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                Need PIGWAR  😃

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                • FOXYF
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                  Let's see what can be done…

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                  • FOXYF
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                    Here's the story behind the pig war…
                    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_War

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                    • SeulS
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                      "No human casualties" - so what??? A PIG WAS SHOT YOU MURDEROUS SWINE!..

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                      • steelworkerS
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                        @Seul:

                        "No human casualties" - so what??? A PIG WAS SHOT YOU MURDEROUS SWINE!..

                        you hard drinkers are having way waaay too much fun

                        Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                        Well, I have others.

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                        • SeulS
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                          We drink hard, we play hard.

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                          • trail and arrowT
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                            hallo weekend

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                            • GraemeG
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                              I don't drink, so this might be a present for some unsuspecting person this Christmas…

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                              • trail and arrowT
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                                🙂

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                                • mclaincauseyM
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                                  I've stopped drinking. It's clear liquors, wine, and beer only from here on out.

                                  Think it, be it.

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                                  • S
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                                    Show us on the doll where whiskey touched you, Mclain.  Seriously, though–why keep beer and wine but not brown liquor?  Can't be a diet thing...

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                                    • mclaincauseyM
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                                      I was joking 😃

                                      But seriously, I really have quit drinking for the moment.

                                      Think it, be it.

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                                        I thought we were going to have to have an intervention.  Always a good idea to take a break, once in a while.

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                                        • SeulS
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                                          I don't drink whilst I sleep. I dream of beer though.

                                          (I really do…)

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                                          • trail and arrowT
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                                            @sabergirl:

                                            Show us on the doll where whiskey touched you, Mclain.

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