SExIH07 Jeans (Indigo, Black)
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Overdye is going to be too HUGE in 2011… Beautiful stuff Beats. See you in a few weeks!
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beatle your pics/jeans make me want an OD pair sooo badly. the beatle buster may be my next denim purchase…
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yap, see you in a few, Lando, and LOTD - you won't regret it…
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Pardon my ignorance (I searched the forum but couldn't find specifics), but is the 19oz denim on these jeans exclusive to the SE collaboration (and the 301s-07BK), or has it also been used on other Iron Heart products?
My understanding is that Iron Heart's flagship denim is 21oz sanforized. What denim are the Beatle Buster and Devil's Fit being made from?
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^devils fit will be 18oz unsan, and i think it also might be the same for the beatle busters too.
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the 19oz is a selfedge exclusive.
first time ever was for the sexih07 - and now the 301sod
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Beatle Buster will be made in IH's 21oz flagship denim, indigo and od , plus in Ironhearts new superblack selvage denim designed to fade to gray.
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I suppose it would be too soon to have evo comparisons between the 19oz unsanforized and 21oz (either indigo or overdyed variants). I've seen beatle and sidneylo's documentation of the SExIH07BK and evo photos of the older BK denim, but I mean a side by side comparison with the same amount of wear (hoping Haraki-san did some experiments or something).
If I recall correctly, I remember kiya saying something about the 19oz denim producing faster and higher contrast fades.
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I am still standing by that high contrast fade is achieved by frequent wear, not worrying too much and the tightness of the jeans.
I've seen super contrasty 21 IH's - and some were faded in only 3 or 4 months of wear. Basically the od will be harder to break in - but than again , it's about the ride, not the final destination.
In other words - don't compare - just wear…
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I am still standing by that high contrast fade is achieved by frequent wear, not worrying too much and the tightness of the jeans.
I've seen super contrasty 21 IH's - and some were faded in only 3 or 4 months of wear. Basically the od will be harder to break in - but than again , it's about the ride, not the final destination.
In other words - don't compare - just wear…
100% agree with you on this Beats. If you look at all the pics on this forum, you can see people who absolutely destroyed their jeans in only 3-4 months by wearing them to work everyday. If you work the jeans aggressively, any pair will fade. If you just wear them out to dinner, it will take a while.
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All other things being equal, a lighter weight denim will produce more contrasty fades. But in all honesty, there are so many varaiables that affect the end result.
Haraki never does fade experiments. He designs the denim from the ground up (that includes the selection of the cotton to the weaving and dyeing process), then he lets time take it's course.
He always has an end game in mind - like "I want this to be super slow fade with eventual mega contrast" - and he usually gets it right. But he leaves it up to us to discover what really happens. That's part of the excitement.
Here is another example the black/black selvedge denim he has created for me that we will debut with the BB version of the Beatle Busters is designed to fade to grey with time. But no one has any idea what the end result will look like. Personally I cant wait to find out…G
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Wow. Thanks for the responses. This sure is an active forum!
I didn't expect anyone to be that geeky about the differences in the denim to experiment with them; just thought it would be cool. Obviously everyone wears their jeans differently, and even the same person wouldn't produce the same fades on different pairs of jeans.
I suppose that the 19oz denim is fairly similar to the 21oz denim then, and will produce lovely classic IH fades.
BTW, thanks Beatle for doing such a wicked job of photographing your jeans. I hope to wear mine someday as well as you are wearing yours!
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just a weird question that i could be completely wrong about, but i'm sure someone will know.
i know that a sanforized jean is essentially just denim that's gone through the shrink to fit process by way of a treatment. if a jean is STF, when the shrinkage is done is the denim technically the same ounce denim?
ie- is the 19oz denim on these jeans still considered 19oz, or does it become heavier(?) like the 634SR?
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Others will have more info on this since I'm still not totally clear/have forgotten the details, but using your example with the 634SR… the 21/23 oz. designation is pre and post soak. Really heavy denim.
Basically I understand it to be that once the denim shrinks, the denim compresses and more 'fits' into a square yard, which is the standard dimension at which it's weight is taken.
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the 19oz denim weighs apprx. 21 after soak.
(stf - shrink to fit - a jeans that is made of raw denim)
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the 19oz denim weighs apprx. 21 after soak.
(stf - shrink to fit - a jeans that is made of raw denim)
the answer i was looking for. thanks beats!
