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    • GilesG
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      ^ On the surface those prices look ridiculous, but you only see part of the story there.  When comparing prices in different countries you need o take into account the average salary and the tax regime.  Singapore has a policy of extremely low compulsory taxation and extremely high discretionary taxation.  So you get more take home pay to spend on what you choose…..

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      • GilesG
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        Oh, and Paula and seriously considered moving to Singapore because we would be better off money-wise than we are in UK….Even with booze, cigs, cars etc etc costing far more than in Europe....

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        • Finn666F
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          btw. G. -  you already got your E63 AMG?

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          • GilesG
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            I rent it on a 3+23 and it costs me feck all - amazing but true…  AND as oversupply continues, it will only get better (cheaper).  I was talking to one of my customers yesterday who runs a fleet of high end cars.  Audi offered him a (and this is simply stunning) buy-one-get-one-free on any pair of"S's" recently....

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            • Finn666F
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              3+23?…

              now i want a piece of the cake...can't he help me out with finding a nice one G.?:)

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              • GilesG
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                A 3+23 is a 24 month rental period with 3 monthly payments due in month 1.  In UK you can get all sorts.

                I had an Audi A4 once on 3+6
                Our Fiat 500 is on 3+36

                I like a 3+23 because I only need to pay for 1 service and I do not need to change the tyres before handing it back.  And if I don't like it I only have to keep it 2 years….

                G

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                • Finn666F
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                  sounds like a nice thing to do…so actually (with the 3+23) you only have your car for 2 years, then you can "choose" a new one?!

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                  • GilesG
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                    Yep.  After 18 months with the C63 I started looking around.  With a bit of negotiation I got the E63 for the same rental as the C63.  And the on the road price of the E is USD32,000 more than the C, it just shows how desperate the car companies are to shift stock…..

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                    • Finn666F
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                      USD32k for a "used" E63? ???
                      well i'd rather get that one instead of the A5!

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                      • GilesG
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                        NO.  I never said anything about a resale price….

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        • Finn666F
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                          overread the "more" part…sry 😉

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                          • louisboscoL
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                            @Giles:

                            Oh, and Paula and seriously considered moving to Singapore because we would be better off money-wise than we are in UK….Even with booze, cigs, cars etc etc costing far more than in Europe....

                            not to mention houses as well G. houses and cars. those are the things that can get you. only good thing is the low income taxes. but i always have the feeling that they f**ks us in other ways. btw, any picture of your e63?

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                            • louisboscoL
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                              correct me if i'm wrong though. basically you're paying a certain amount a month to rent this cars on a 2 year basis. and you're getting the e63 rental price for the price of renting a c63? so technically

                              3+23= 3 months of fees in the first month and normal on the 23 remaining months??
                              any links to have a look at one of those companies G?

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                              • GilesG
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                                This is the only photo I've taken…......

                                But it just looks like a pretty ordinary E Class Estate.  But the sound - now that is something else…...

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                • GilesG
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                                  You have to shop around and negotiate but here are some examples.  I pay GBP520 per month for a 3+23:

                                  http://www.contractcars.com/contract_hire/mercedes/mercedes.asp?gclid=CIGol8aUjb0CFWT4wgodzyQAPQ

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  • Finn666F
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                                    now if i could find something like that in germany or here in switzerland, that'd be banging! 🙂

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                                    • GilesG
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                                      And in my case it is a business expense so you can halve that as an actual outlay…..

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      • ohighyoO
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                                        Finn, like G said, it's a business expense every year. Unless you are able to write your car off as an expense, I would recommend not leasing a vehicle.

                                        Personally I like to buy pre owned cars that some other idiot already bought new, and then realized he couldn't afford. We bought our a3 with 19,000 miles and saved 8,000 dollars. The guy drove it for 10 months and had to trade it in for a Subaru because he couldn't afford it.  No brainer in my book.

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                                        • Finn666F
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                                          def. a no brainer…and for me, i'll def. be buying a car instead of leasing one, no question!

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                                          • louisboscoL
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                                            yeah G, that amg sound is just awesome. careful not to wake the neighbors 😛 but interesting stuff about the leasing. new to that kinda stuff.

                                            and yeah definitely those pre-own cars are good. you usually get a few good ones at few thousand milage and brand new for much less than an outright new ones.

                                            "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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