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Important Information: US Tariff Import Changes

Self Edge x Iron Heart = SEXIH22-633s

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  • O
    Occupant
    Joined: 8 Apr 2012

    I tried on a pair of 34s and while I was able to button them up without too much difficulty, they just wouldn't have been comfortable. I tried on the 36s, but the leg was way too large for my liking. The fabric is amazing and I'm really disappointed to be missing out on these. Oh, the woes of being a size 35.

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      PSB
      Joined: 1 Dec 2013

      Thanks for the input, guys. I was curious what "loomstate" actually meant so I did some additional research prior to seeing your replies.

      I found an article on RAWR last night that briefly explained the other finishing processes (besides sanforization). A lot if seemed to address uniform appearance of the denim and initial comfort.

      last edited by 19 Feb 2014, 10:06 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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        Broark
        Joined: 15 Dec 2013

        Just tried to put mine on this morning while still a bit damp and I can already tell they're going to be difficult!
        Need to wait until they're fully dry I think.

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          KrisB
          Joined: 7 Sept 2012

          Post soak, and a couple days skating in them to break them in.

          The first thing i noticed with these is how comfortable they are after the soak; especially when i compared these to my XHS's. Is that with all unsanforized denim? or maybe its because i dramatically sized up?

          None the less, these are awesome, and I'm super stoked to have em, I'll try to update every month or so.

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            Boit
            Haraki san Expert
            Joined: 13 Apr 2013

            @KrisB:

            The first thing i noticed with these is how comfortable they are after the soak; especially when i compared these to my XHS's. Is that with all unsanforized denim?

            no. not unusually. fit aside: i think that with most denim, comfort really depends on how the cotton is processed pre and post loom (sanforization being only one variable). I haven't found much detailed info on IH's manufacturing processes, as Haraki seems to be pretty tight lipped…but something seems to be very different with denim IH produces above the 21 oz. level.

            WTB: IHJ-118-BLK/OLV XL, IHM-34-BLK L, IHSH-297-IND L, IHSH-399-ORA XL, IHWF-001-PUR L, IHSH-366-IND L

            last edited by 28 Feb 2014, 21:55 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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              PSB
              Joined: 1 Dec 2013

              I was out of commission for work today with a scratched cornea. By early this evening, after being in the house all day, I was getting a little stir-crazy, so I decided to get the initial soak of my 633s out of the way.

              Plus, with wifey out with friends, I thought it was the opportune time to partake in weird denim rituals.




              last edited by 8 Mar 2014, 01:09 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                Chris
                Raw and Unwashed
                Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                Figured a couple of fit pics would make the thread more interesting.

                Just a little leg skew on this model.

                A couple of quick thoughts on the jeans- the denim is phenomenally rigid.  It's really going to take a while to break in this pair.  After two hot washes, the fit is really good and I expect them to be even better after the denim softens up and starts to hang more naturally.  Overall, I like the pair a lot, but there is one thing that I absolutely hate- the front pocket openings are stupidly small.  I did a quick check against my 634s, and it looks like the front belt loops were moved about 3/4 of an inch away from the fly, which cuts the size of the pocket opening to the point where I can barely get my hands in them.  Terrible alteration, in my opinion.  Guess I'll just have to live with it and see if I'll adjust.

                last edited by 9 Mar 2014, 00:20 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                  seanocono
                  Joined: 17 Oct 2012

                  Sorry to hear about the pocket issue, Chris, but with a fit like that, who cares? Looks perfect.

                  last edited by 9 Mar 2014, 00:29 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    Snowy
                    Joined: 15 Jun 2012

                    Nice fit Chris. Can certainly see the -1 on the 634. Looks like a very straight cut without anywhere being too tight.

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                      madmonday
                      Raw and Unwashed
                      Joined: 13 Oct 2009

                      nice fit on the jeans Houston-Slim-Chris.

                      that tee shirt & those boots are the break out stars of the photo set.

                      head high, middle finger higher

                      last edited by 9 Mar 2014, 00:37 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        Chris
                        Raw and Unwashed
                        Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                        Yep; love both of those, myself.  I'll try to get some decent pics of the SDA shirt in the right thread.  It's chainstitch embroidered, so it's extra cool.

                        last edited by 9 Mar 2014, 01:09 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                          mclaincausey
                          見習いボス
                          Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                          I'm discouraged by the pockets. Love the fit.

                          Think it, be it.

                          last edited by 9 Mar 2014, 01:38 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                            Anesthetist
                            見習いボス
                            Joined: 14 May 2011

                            Chris, that pair looks perfect on you, almost to the point that I wish got these instead of the raw 301. Oddly enough it l ooks like you have the same wild leg twist like my '22-301s. I agree with you on the denim, it is some tough stuff.

                            IG: bluehandsslim

                            last edited by 9 Mar 2014, 01:47 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              pillowPANTS
                              Joined: 24 Jun 2011

                              Look good on u Chris. I personally hate leg twist, drives me nuts. Which is one of the reasons i didnt go for these and now u say the pockets are small?? That def counts me out

                              last edited by 9 Mar 2014, 03:45 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                Broark
                                Joined: 15 Dec 2013

                                Fit looks good Chris!
                                I never manage to take any fit pics because I don't really have a good camera for it.
                                But, it's interesting that you mentioned the pockets because I actually like the size of the pocket opening more than most jeans that I own (and I have too many jeans haha).  I felt like they were pretty easily accessible from the start.

                                last edited by 9 Mar 2014, 12:39 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  Chris
                                  Raw and Unwashed
                                  Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                                  To better illustrate my complaint about the pockets, I did some comparison shots between my size 34 633S and my size 33 634S.  Faded 634S on top in all pics (obvi).

                                  We'll start with a straight ahead front shot, with the fly on each pair aligned.  As you can see, the beltloops are much farther from the centerline of the 633 than they are in the 634.

                                  Here, you can see how the coin pocket had to be reduced to fit the smaller pocket opening.

                                  This pic shows a bit better how the opening had to be re-cut to accommodate the new belt loop placement.  You can see how the upward curve toward the waistband is sharper in the 633.

                                  I'll concede that it's not a massive change, and I'm sure some people will love it and even more people won't care about it at all, but for me, this is bad.  The only bad thing about these jeans, in fact, which may be why it bugs me so much- it keeps them from being fantastic.

                                  last edited by 9 Mar 2014, 17:35 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    mclaincausey
                                    見習いボス
                                    Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                                    I see the value in a little more space between the front belt loops but I don't think it's worth compromising the pockets.

                                    Think it, be it.

                                    last edited by 9 Mar 2014, 18:00 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      seanocono
                                      Joined: 17 Oct 2012

                                      I can see how that would bug, Chris.

                                      Faded 634 looks great, BTW.

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                                        Chris
                                        Raw and Unwashed
                                        Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                                        They're less impressive than it looks.  I put up a couple of pics in the IH-634S thread.  I even put on the same shirt and boots, so the people with too much time on their hands can compare the fits.

                                        last edited by 6 Jul 2014, 00:55 9 Mar 2014, 21:02 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          PSB
                                          Joined: 1 Dec 2013

                                          I wore my 633s all weekend and didn't notice the pockets until you mentioned it, Chris. You are definitely right about the openings being smaller / less accessible. It's not a real issue for me as I rarely carry anything in my front pockets anymore as I hate how the iPhone fades front pockets, especially on slimmer-cut jeans, but I can see how it could bother some people.

                                          Other than that, I've been pleased with these so far. I like that the cut is somewhere in between my work 634s and my 666XHS. The 20oz LHT denim is definitely interesting: dark, rigid but not super-heavy. They feel like they're going to be really soft when they break in properly

                                          last edited by 9 Mar 2014, 22:15 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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