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    • GraemeG
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      The trouble with charging batteries faster is the sheer amount of energy that needs to be transferred.

      In the UK a household three pin socket is rated for 13 amps at 240 volts. That's about 3 kW, and you'd need 28 hours to fully charge an 85 kWh Tesla.

      Going up to three phase power, I've seen sockets rated at 125 amps at 400 volts. That's around 85 kW, depending on load type, and so would take an hour to recharge the car fully.

      For giggles, here's the calculation with diesel. The energy density of one litre is 9.7 kWh, and a typical pump can deliver this in 1.5 seconds. Electric motors are about three times as efficient as internal combustion engines (90% versus 30%), so you'd need about 255 kWh of energy, which is 26 litres of fuel, and would take about 40 seconds to transfer from a typical pump. That's the equivalent of a 23 MW line into the car. :o

      (Diesel is a fantastic fuel, it's just a shame that there's a limited supply and has pollution issues.)

      Lithium sulphur might lead to a two or four fold increase in energy densities (that could mean a Tesla Model S with a 500 to 600 mile range from a battery pack weighing 300 kg, rather than 600 kg), and IBM are working on lithium air batteries. There's an article on both of these at The Register. But they're going to take time to develop, and we're likely to see incremental advances in existing lithium ion tech in the meantime.

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      • FOXYF
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        The wife pulled the trigger the other day…

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        • mclaincauseyM
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          They have some innovations queued up to address charge time and overall efficiency that will supposedly be commercialized within 5 years.  I read about a couple of these on sites like the MIT Technology Review.  One of them was nano-scale holes put into a Li-Ion substrate, even if/when they move past that medium I bet this tech is transferrable.

          http://www.kurzweilai.net/batteries-with-10x-more-capacity-and-that-charge-10x-faster

          Think it, be it.

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          • tmgT
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            @FOXY:

            The wife pulled the trigger the other day…

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            That's a beauty!
            Always wanted a DS, along with a Jensen Interceptor…...and a 997 GT3 4.0 🙂

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            • ChrisC
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              It looks like it's in great shape; what year is it?  Since Citroen doesn't export to the US, I know essentially nothing about the brand.

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              • FOXYF
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                1966/67 DS 21 Pallas - the last year before they integrated the headlights into the body - and, the first model that came with "green" hydraulic set-up…

                The dealer is still fixing a few things - we should be able to pick "her" up the next time we are in Berlin.
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                • Jordan23J
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                  Nice one K. Many congrats!

                  Enjoy ya addiction!

                  AE

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                  • mclaincauseyM
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                    Gorgeous ole gal hanging out behind the bar.

                    Think it, be it.

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                    • mclaincauseyM
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                      http://bringatrailer.com/2013/09/27/the-boat-and-the-bathtub-1962-porsche-356b-1600s-cabrio/

                      Purist schmurist: http://bringatrailer.com/2013/09/27/300-more-power-1955-austin-healey-100-v8-custom/

                      Think it, be it.

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                      • mclaincauseyM
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                        Some like yachts.
                        Some like pontoons.

                        Some like land yachts.
                        Some like land pontoons.

                        Think it, be it.

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                        • SeulS
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                          Want… Maybe if I stopped drinking beer and started saving...

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                          • ChrisC
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                            @Seul:

                            Want… Maybe if I stopped drinking beer and started saving...

                            If you stopped drinking completely, it would only take a month or two to save up the necessary funds, right?  Totally worth it.

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                            • mclaincauseyM
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                              Well, aside from dying from delirium tremens….

                              Think it, be it.

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                              • beardoB
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                                Turn me loose and set me free somewhere in the middle of Montana…... with my modest collection of IH pieces and this. That is all I need.

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                                • SeulS
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                                  @Chris:

                                  If you stopped drinking completely, it would only take a month or two to save up the necessary funds, right?  Totally worth it.

                                  Me accountant said 2-3 weeks, but yeah… Shouldn't take too long... Might go for the 100 grand cheaper Bentley Continental GT first to tide me over...

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                                  • ChrisC
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                                    Actually, we should clarify- you'd only need to stop buying booze for a month.  You've got enough in the fridge to keep drinking that whole time.

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                                    • mclaincauseyM
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                                      Is there a walk-in fridge at Seul's that I've somehow missed?

                                      Think it, be it.

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                                      • SeulS
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                                        @Chris:

                                        Actually, we should clarify- you'd only need to stop buying booze for a month.

                                        😉

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                                        • joesaintjohnJ
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                                          Taking this bad boy out in the morning. 1929 Ford Phaeton - Drool

                                          Fat dudes need good clothes too.

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                                          • GilesG
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                                            Pics pics pics…..Please

                                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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