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    • M
      MikeC
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      I'm reverting back to the simple living thing. I have one main pair of jeans (thanks Gav) and one beater, 666S. I went from having 12 shirts to 5 shirts. Everything now gets the wear it should. If your into vintage clothes and their fades, then you should know that most of those people were poor and they have sick fades because that was their only outfit for several years. I'm a wearer, not a collector.

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      • Megatron1505M
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        For me it's not about need vs want, that is minimalism and it doesn't work for many. I'm simply saying that if I want a denim shirt then I will buy 1 really good one, not three really good ones or 15 shit ones, same for dress boots, work boots, shoes, denim jackets etc… I'll only go with more on things like denim, shirts, tees etc... And even then not to extremes.

        You may need only 1 winter coat, I feel more comfortable owning 2, to own more than that seems excessive and irresponsible to me. Again, just my opinion.

        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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        • Megatron1505M
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          Rafa, I knew you were talking shit anyway  😉

          Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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          • Finn666F
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            i say buy as many shit as you want, as long as you're happy with it.

            if you have 1 pair of jeans and you're happy as fuck, fine! if you have 10 pairs of jeans and you're happy as fuck, fine!
            same with everything else…"irresponsible" isn't the right word imo. if one is able to (enough money/space) own a shitload of expensive clothes, cars, horses or whatever the fuck you can think about...damn, then wth. not!

            some love to buy one pair of jeans and wear'em to pulp. others like the "newer" look and enjoy every different detail on the different pairs of jeans they own.

            life and let die...no need to waste your time with thinking about how others live their life, spend their money or anything else 😉

            just my 0.02 btw.!

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            • mclaincauseyM
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              Giles, just quit making shit I can't resist and I can adopt simplicity.  It's all your fault!

              Think it, be it.

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                Personally I'm not thinking about how anyone lives their lives.  If the mannequin look is what your after, go right ahead.

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                • Megatron1505M
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                  I can't buy that argument at all Rafa, sorry man. Buying a truck load of stuff you won't use simply because your current financial situation dictates that you can is the exact definition of irresponsible. Not saying that people can't be irresponsible sometimes (I was the poster child), but to justify it by your finance is extremely irresponsible.

                  And of course we're interested in each other's life's, this is an Internet forum so that is basically all we do here.

                  Not trying to yank your (or anyone else's) chain by the way, just expressing and exploring my thoughts on the "seen my" culture.

                  Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                  • mclaincauseyM
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                    Don't mannequins wear the same thing for days on end? 😃

                    Think it, be it.

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                      MikeC
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                      I thought mannequins couldn't speak?

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                        ^this is a joke.

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                        • mclaincauseyM
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                          Haha, well-played!

                          Think it, be it.

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                          • Finn666F
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                            @Megatron1505:

                            I can't buy that argument at all Rafa, sorry man. Buying a truck load of stuff you won't use simply because your current financial situation dictates that you can is the exact definition of irresponsible. Not saying that people can't be irresponsible sometimes (I was the poster child), but to justify it by your finance is extremely irresponsible.

                            And of course we're interested in each other's life's, this is an Internet forum so that is basically all we do here.

                            Not trying to yank your (or anyone else's) chain by the way, just expressing and exploring my thoughts on the "seen my" culture.

                            why "won't use"…? everything gets worn. just not as frequent i'd guess!

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                            • Megatron1505M
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                              Semantics, if you buy boots which good for 1000 miles of walking and only walk 10 miles they are not used to their potential or purpose. You knew exactly what I meant  😉

                              Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                              • mclaincauseyM
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                                shrug

                                To each his own.  If someone wants 20 shirts to iterate through, then they will wear more slowly and last longer.  They may never need buy another shirt.  If someone wants 3, then they will evo rapidly but wear out more quickly.  They will definitely need to buy another shirt.  I couldn't care less how others budget and mange their wardrobes, do watcha wanna….

                                Think it, be it.

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                                • Finn666F
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                                  @Megatron1505:

                                  Semantics, if you buy boots which good for 1000 miles of walking and only walk 10 miles they are not used to their potential or purpose. You knew exactly what I meant  😉

                                  you almost never wear something as long as it was designed to last buddy 😉

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                                    I think Rafa needs a new pair of Viberg boots…..

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                                    • Megatron1505M
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                                      Degrees Rafa, stands to reason that a guy with three pairs of boots will put far more wear on them than a guy with 10 pairs  😉

                                      Like I said from the beginning this is just my opinion, the only reason that I'm still debating it is that validations of finance and apathy are something else I find frustrating (unpopular opinion number 2).

                                      And again, I'm not making this a need vs want debate, I'm just simply stating that I don't get the seen my culture of the guys with 36 flannel shirts, 40 pairs of jeans, 29 pairs of boots, 135 tee shirts, 7 leather jackets and a partridge in a frikkin pair tree  😛

                                      Exaggeration I know, but really the line has to be drawn somewhere….it's looking more than a little gauche, like Liberace but in denim and leather.

                                      A great point was made by a campaign I supported earlier this year, as did many other people in this industry, about buying cheap clothing is socioeconomically irresponsible, and leads to tragedy like the factory collapse in Bangladesh. Then surely by the same token by stock piling things (anything) you are once again pushing the envelope of irresponsibility as everything you buy has a supply chain from raw material, and carbon footprint. Now, unless you are intimately aware of the provenance of every bass part of everything you buy then you are adding to the problem.

                                      I just believe in responsible consumerism at all levels, if you cannot realistically give function to the thing you buy then it is a pure luxury, nothing wrong with that but when most purchases which you make are pure luxury then you are exasperating a problem which effects everyone.

                                      Nice to get debate going btw  🙂

                                      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                        Don't even get me started on carbon footprints. I've made an agreement with my self that I will only buy loomstate (kibata) denim because it has zero post weaving applications, making the carbon footprint as small as possible.

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                                        • Megatron1505M
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                                          Having said all that I must add the caveat that in our niche market of high end clothing it is easier to define provenance and supply chain because we can trust guys like Haraki and Giles that they source bass components themselves and do so of quality and expensively made goods. This makes me feel better and can be said of just about any of of the brands we purchase.

                                          My main point for this particular scene is that (in my opinion) if you don't explore the potential of your clothing by wearing it then you can look like you don't really get it.

                                          Look at Harakis own 634's, they are beautiful because of the time and wear he has put into them, I am constantly amazed by the jeans I see in the HWDC. These things make me happy, seeing a dude with 45 pairs of almost pristine jeans makes me a little sad.

                                          End of unpopular opinion.

                                          Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                          • GraemeG
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                                            Only because Rafa regularly loses them when out drinking…

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