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    • mclaincauseyM
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      Apple is the best technology company in the world for taking such risks with. Might sound fanboyish, but it's the simple truth. They are strategic and vertically integrated and iterative.

      Think it, be it.

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        I'm a big fan of the build-perfection of MacBooks since lately. I will never again carry a device with me that weights more than 1 kg.
        But the hype of the iPhones is beyond my understanding. I would never exchange my Galaxy S3 Android-device for an iPhone. Have been using a 4S and a 5 for a short time and I hated the experience. It's oversimplified and I hate the 1-button-concept. I just cannot work efficiently without the back and menu button. Plus why would one pay so much more compared to a technically stronger Android-device. The next thing is the nazified AppStore, it is just so damn inflexible for users and developers.

        Flame war officially started. 😃

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          ^lol, life's too short for flame wars, and we're generally a respectful bunch :).

          My phone has not been rebooted for over 3 months and works flawlessly. That's exactly what I look for. I don't want to spend time fiddling, Apple makes the phone a device that requires no thought. The Touch ID is a one of the main features got me rushing to get it. Added it's a nice upgrade from the 4S, and will scream with IOS7.

          The main app I use on my phone is a cycling/location tracking app which will be done via the co-processor, instead of CPU. Another nice feature. Enough little features for the boost, and the phones are rock solid. They're not for tinkers but that suits me :). I tinker on *nix boxes enough, as you know 😉

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          • mclaincauseyM
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            Apple versus Android is polarizing in the sense that you either like one or the other, I see no reason to carry it past that.  To me, the exact opposite is true, I find the back button to be very confusing, as its operation changes with context.  I prefer simplicity and consistency in a device.  This doesn't make Android wrong, it makes it wrong for me.

            Think it, be it.

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            • tatmantallT
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              The thumb print deal kinda weirdo me out in all honesty….say hello to big brother.

              "I know to you it may sound strange, but I wish it would rain…"- The Temptations

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              • mclaincauseyM
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                Meh, they've already got my prints 😃

                Think it, be it.

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                  @tatmantall:

                  The thumb print deal kinda weirdo me out in all honesty….say hello to big brother.

                  Yeah not a big fan of that at all.

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                    ^It doesn't work like that, and even if through some whacky reason it does, I really don't care if my fingerprint is on file. It's not like it's usable for anything or impacts my daily life in any way.

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                      @mclaincausey:

                      Meh, they've already got my prints 😃

                      Please don't see that as a personal insult, but the problem nowadays is that western society is so spoilt by wealth that almost nobody cares any more about the highest good in a democracy => privacy. I myself give up privacy for comfort in some cases (using GMail, Dropbox, etc.), but I try to minimize my exposure to governmental monitoring.

                      Sorry if I sound like a smartass, I just try my best to convince people to worship more their basic rights.
                      I myself never want the 1984-predictions to come true.

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                      • mclaincauseyM
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                        It is optional and biometric data is stored on the SoC.  I think it's a great idea, I always worry about shoulder surfers seeing a PIN.

                        I hope none of you use the same PIN on your phone as an ATM.

                        I also hope this can be used as a second factor of authentication.

                        If Google is smart, they will add an iris scanner to Glass.

                        Think it, be it.

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                        • mclaincauseyM
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                          I am super paranoid about the government and privacy.  I am not kidding or trivializing things when I say they have my prints.

                          The prints are kept on the A7 and if privacy is a concern, I'd be more worried about Google than this.  YMMV.

                          Think it, be it.

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                            I should have mentioned that I'm not talking about Apple devices, but about gadgets in general. Of course one can throw Google in the same pot.
                            I made so many terrible experiences with friends and colleagues at Uni who study IT(!) with me, and when we talk about that stuff I usually get a reply a la "Well, I don't have anything to hide" or "Well I'm just a regular person, why would they care about me?" Maybe for an average person this whole talking about privacy and monitoring might be too abstract, but for people who study IT this is VERY frightening imho. I get furious when people reply something like that. Don't people use their brains any more?

                            The worst part: Politicians in Austria and Germany usually pretend that there is no problem regarding the NSA-scandal. Usually official statements are something like "The NSA confirmed that they will only search/access monitored data when there is a court order". WTF, they can't be serious.

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                            • mclaincauseyM
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                              We are on the same page, believe me…

                              The whole "I don't have anything to hide" and "if you don't have anything to hide, why are you worried about it" mentality is despicable and the antithesis of democracy. It makes me nuts that we in America so complacently trade freedom for convenience and are too complacent to challenge the continuous narrowing of our liberties. We have betrayed the principles on which our nation was founded. We let the fear of terror and just plain laziness push us towards an autocratic police state.

                              Ben Franklin said it best:

                              "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

                              All that said, Apple is a lesser evil in terms of privacy than is google just based on the less cloud-y nature of it. All phones leak data, some deliberately, but by putting all of it in google's cloud I am compromising more of my privacy than I am with apple. Just my opinion.

                              Think it, be it.

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                                ^Shoque, you've got to come back out the other side mate. Having done Information Security (not just "IT") for global telcos and setup some of the core Lawful Interception (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawful_interception) networks, it's not a fun place/view of the world. There is enlightenment post Information Security, life becomes an accepted risk management.

                                There's no way Apple could do something other then they've said on this, it would cost them the company's reputation massively. That's not misplaced/guided trust, that's logical common sense, that will be mathematically proven rather soon.

                                Life's too short to worry about the boogy man. Assume everything you say/do is already being recorded/archived and tracked, and get on with living. There's nothing you can do about it and you can't opt out, it's the price of entry for a global economy, stability,  and information network.

                                On the Touch ID specifically, I'm with MCL, I'm more concerned about shoulder surfing and theft of my device. The Touch ID only works with living cells, meaning that a finger print can't be cloned, nor a finger cut off. That makes my device only useable be me. I protect my data and secure it as best as possible, that's the flip side of privacy; data protection. /ends hijack 🙂

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                                  When "measuring" Apple against Google, you are totally right. Google is the privacy-holocaust: Search history, mails, drive, contacts, calendar, talk/hangout. 😕

                                  The more I think about it the more desperate and depressed I get.

                                  The Ben Franklin quote really sums up what has been going on in the USA, but also in Europe, in the past few decades.

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                                  • mclaincauseyM
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                                    RMS, I worry, will ultimately proven right on apple, google, Microsoft, and free software.

                                    Think it, be it.

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                                      ^your geek cred has just gone up @ least 2 notches with that call :). (And I agree). (and if you get time please feel free to PM me some of your backstory)

                                      Theo de Raadt is the other one who comes out shining.
                                      FBI inserted back doors into IPSEC; http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=129236621626462

                                      [For internet production if it matters it's either OpenBSD or Solaris/SmartOS, never ever been anything else]

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                                        ^ true, I didn't expect someone to mention Stallman now in that discussion.

                                        Snowy: I always thought there were just rumors that the IPSec protocol theoretically was compromised? I would have never expected Open Source network stack implementations to be compromised. Is there some more of de Raadt on mailing lists regarding that topic? Feel free to mail me some background-info. 🙂

                                        What about OpenVPN, that's what I mainly use now to retain anonymity? At least regarding to Snowden, AES is only able to be cracked via bruteforcing, right?

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                                        • mclaincauseyM
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                                          Yeah, Theo is a hero of freedom in the digital age, no question.  I used to run an OpenBSD box primarily as a firewall on an old SPARCstation.  pf is ridiculously awesome.

                                          EDIT: Bruce Schneier is another hero of mine…

                                          Think it, be it.

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                                          • tatmantallT
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                                            @Snowy:

                                            ^It doesn't work like that, and even if through some whacky reason it does, I really don't care if my fingerprint is on file. It's not like it's usable for anything or impacts my daily life in any way.

                                            But it does impact your civil liberties actually, on precedent… The more of your privacy you shrug your shoulders to regardless of your daily activities the harder it will become to defend your privacy. If its okay for them to swipe finger prints from an app or whatever this is, then is it okay for them to come in your house and install cameras or use your camera of your phone or Bluetooth to monitor your daily activities? Its about principle and making sure our most important liberties stay intact, for without them we are defenseless.

                                            "I know to you it may sound strange, but I wish it would rain…"- The Temptations

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