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    • urbanwoodsmanU
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      Went to SENY today planning on buying a pair of jeans, did not happen. Tried on the 666-XHS sz36, wow not even close to the original run's measurements. We measured them against the other pair of jeans I tried on, 9634 sz36. From the lower thigh down, exact same measurements. Those cuts are suppose to be totally different. The only difference in the cuts were that the 666xhs were way slimmer in the top block(too slim for my liking) where as the 9634 was overly baggy in the top block. I know I know, fit is very subjective but man I was super disappointed in these specific runs.

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      • seanoconoS
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        ^25 oz Busters sounds like what you're looking for.

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        • Finn666F
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          iirc Shane was after the 666-XHS (before he was able to try it!)…sry they didn't match your criterias buddy but i'm sure you can survive without buying a new pair 🙂

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          • urbanwoodsmanU
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            I'm after the 666XhS first run. The measurements on the current run are not the same. The Beatle buster is the opposite of what I want, they have a smaller waist and at least a 9.3in+ leg opening and that's at a 36inseam. By the time you hem them for my short ass you have 9.5-9.7in leg opening, which is enormous. I just don't think IH makes a cut anymore that can fit me how I want. If they made cuts in shorter inseams, like in Japan, they would fit me fine because the cut would be true but not on these 36in+ inseams. Any sort of taper there is gets lost once you hem them to 32ish or shorter.

            Tons of other brands fit like fucking gloves, I just don't get it.

            Btw, I tried on the original 666xhs run when they came out and they fit like a glove, just didn't have the cash. Also, tried on Zwer's pair, fit like a glove.

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            • Finn666F
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              if you aren't after some heavy ass denim, check out Joe/Real McCoy…great shit 😉

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              • tatmantallT
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                I'm sure they (IH) probably try to shoot for some kind of happy medium. It's like a game if tug-o-war. On one end you got tall guys like myself, seancono, twin, etc pulling for the longest inseams we can get because we legitimately need them and then there's the other side of the spectrum who loses the taper when they get hemmed if they are too long…I'm just happy that there are a few offerings, limited as they maybe, out there for us talk guys who wear boots cause I just can't do 7" leg openings.

                "I know to you it may sound strange, but I wish it would rain…"- The Temptations

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                • SeulS
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                  urb: that sucks dude… I hope you come across a 1 ed. 666XHS in your size soon!..

                  And I'm with you on the taper vs. long inseams...

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                  • joesaintjohnJ
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                    Maybe the should consider an "R" size with a shorter inseam and a "T" designation for a longer one.

                    Fat dudes need good clothes too.

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                    • SeulS
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                      I've suggested small runs with 34" standard inseam for us shorties before…  🙂

                      I do, however, doubt this is practical...

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                      • urbanwoodsmanU
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                        @joesaintjohn:

                        Maybe the should consider an "R" size with a shorter inseam and a "T" designation for a longer one.

                        I think that's a great idea. But that's a lot of extra work. There would probably need to be a whole new pattern made for the shorter(regular) inseams. I feel like they used to all be 34in inseams or smaller but changed to 36in for the western market. I don't think any pair of pants should have a knee measurement larger than 9in no matter the size. Anything over a 9in hem opening is too wide and falls under your heels.

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                        • GilesG
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                          The reality is as follows.  We are just not large enough an entity to run different versions of the "same" item.

                          So with jeans, I have to go longer because it is always possible to shorten (even if that does compromise the cut) whereas if I go short, I can't add on.

                          Similar with T-shirts.  No one shape fits all, so Haraki and I have to reach a compromise about what will suit the most people out of our combined customer base.

                          I understand that this means that not everything will work for everyone, but it was ever thus.

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • SeulS
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                            This is why I've been thinking about the 555… When cut to a 32", the LO should work for z sz. 33...

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                            • GilesG
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                              @tatmantall:

                              I'm sure they (IH) probably try to shoot for some kind of happy medium. It's like a game if tug-o-war. On one end you got tall guys like myself, seancono, twin, etc pulling for the longest inseams we can get because we legitimately need them and then there's the other side of the spectrum who loses the taper when they get hemmed if they are too long…I'm just happy that there are a few offerings, limited as they maybe, out there for us talk guys who wear boots cause I just can't do 7" leg openings.

                              OK, I have been ruminating.  How about this for a plan?

                              As many future runs as possible of stuff that I can control, I make the leg opening to be par at 34" even if I make them 36 or 37 or whatever.

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • G
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                                Wouldn't that make the cut look strange for those that do need that inseam? Or is it such a minuscule change that it wouldn't make a difference?

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                                • GilesG
                                  Giles
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                                  Miniscule….3" would make about 0.2 of an inch difference....

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  • SeulS
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                                    G: excellent news mate  🙂 Ta!..

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                                    • Megatron1505M
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                                      I love it when G uses the word ruminate  😘

                                      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                      • GilesG
                                        Giles
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                                        Mega, I urinate on you

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        • SeulS
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                                          Aaaah - now we're back to those English high standards I'm so fond of…

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                                          • GilesG
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                                            Pot, kettle, black…..

                                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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