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    • SeulS
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      Favour for my boss: he needs MAC OSX 10.6 (preferably on a CD-ROM)… He can't update from 10.5.8 to the latest version in one go...

      If anyone can help... Ta.

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        Was cleaning out my bottom draw, you're not going to believe this, I just found OSX 10.6.7 (CD is labelled with 15" MBP). Let me know…...

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        • SeulS
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          Thanks, I'll ask my boss-man… He's just been upgraded to grandfather though so I'm guessing he's busy  😃

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            is that the operating system after Mountain Lion? ;). I'll keep the disks aside either way.

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            • SeulS
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              Ok, mail from my boss-man… He wonders whether the jump from 10.5.8 to 10.6.7 is possible without losing data (he mentions pictures, music, kiddy porn; yes that's my boss  😉 )...

              So: he wonders how big the jump can be without losing data, and he's apparently looking for a Dutch version... He also says, Snow, that if you pay for the tickets, he'll pick up the disc in person...

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                Looks like 10.5.8 to 10.6.7 is ay o kay (https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4623914?start=0&tstart=0).

                I'll pay for the tickets, no problems, but he's going to be purchasing a very expensive 10.6.7 CD 😉

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                • SeulS
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                  Thanks Snow. I'll pass along the intel.

                  "We need good intelligence."

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                  • Megatron1505M
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                    Talk to me about the benefits of installing a 256 SSD hard drive in my Mac Book Pro please?  🙂

                    Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                    • GilesG
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                      Assuming you mean rather than a spinning one?  Quicker, quieter, less power consumption.  That is G tech speak….

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • mclaincauseyM
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                        Quicker yes but it's important to explain exactly what that means. Disk access happens more frequently than is patently obvious. Not just when you're opening a document but as memory intensive tasks occur in the hard drive is used as fake memory. Thus, it's hard to overstate the impact of having SSD and your computer from a performance perspective.  It will rejuvenate a computer like nothing else, it can be like buying a new machine.

                        Think it, be it.

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                        • Megatron1505M
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                          What about SSD/ HDD hybrid drives? I'm seriously considering the Seagate Momentus XT 750GB.

                          Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                          • mclaincauseyM
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                            I think those hybrid architectures can be great.  Not sure if they automatically move frequently used data to the SSD and present a single volume, or if you have to manage that yourself and copy files to a fast or a slow volume.  If the latter, you could just install the OS and a few other choice things on the SSD and then use the spinning platters for archival storage (like pig pr0n for Seul).

                            If it is automated, I think what's even better than hybrid storage is the Apple Fusion drive, which is less of a cache model, where frequently used files are copied to faster storage (in this case SSD), and more of an automated tiered storage model, where frequently used blocks are moved to faster storage (SSD).  This is more of an enterprise-grade approach and it makes better use of your available storage.  Blocks is, in short, a more disk-based view of things, where files are more filesystem-based.  Without getting further in the weeds, the disk-based approach is superior (ultimately it is more granular, moving parts of, say, a 50 GB file that are frequently used versus taking up precious fast storage with the whole bloody thing), as is the tiered storage versus cached model (you're not duplicating your items on the faster volumes, again saving space overall).

                            I am really out of touch with storage, so that's all I have.  I just don't know if hybrid drives are intelligent enough to do what you want–I bet Snowy or some other propeller-head on here might be better informed.  But you can make a Fusion drive:
                            http://www.macworld.com/article/2014011/how-to-make-your-own-fusion-drive.html

                            Think it, be it.

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                            • Megatron1505M
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                              Yeh, making a drive won't happen  😉

                              The Seagate one I'm looking at uses an intelligent system which learns your frequently used applications, and uses the SSD part of the drive to boot and open them, using the HDD part for file storage.

                              Allegedly it gives you the speed boost of an SSD in terms of accessing programmes, but keeps the mass storage of a HDD for all all my, I mean Seuls pr0n  😶

                              Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                              • SeulS
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                                Seul is looking at Google Cloud Storage for all his needs… I'm done trusting ex HDDs...  😠

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                                • mclaincauseyM
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                                  Cool Mega, it sounds good, but I've no experience with it.  The best would be if Apple would release Fusion Drives you could use in the computer for the reasons I stated earlier–this Seagate appears to be a cache, file-based model, which is probably all you'd need, but not quite as good as what's possible.

                                  Think it, be it.

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                                    Basically spinning disks are the biggest bottlenecks as CPUs are incredibly fast nowadays and spinning disks just can't cope with the amount that can be processed/sent across the memory bus. Apps open withing a few ns, whereas with a spinning disk it may take seconds.
                                    Depending on what you do with your computer, you will either never look back again or not notice at all or just a little imho.

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                                    • Megatron1505M
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                                      Honestly, I just never want to see the spinning beachball of doom again….it makes me irrationally angry  😠

                                      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                      • mclaincauseyM
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                                        +1 to the infinite power

                                        Think it, be it.

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                                          Hybrid SSD's still have a way to go. Seagate's long term reliability of it's hybrids is still up for debate when I last researched a few months ago.

                                          What I would suggest doing in a MBP is converting the CD Drive to a SSD, and installing a nice beefy SATA drive with some decent space and RPM's in the normal HDD slot. This is the best of both worlds. You use the SSD for boot/applications so no auto-tiering, and HDD for slow.

                                          Regardless of what you use, please ensure it's backed up somewhere as well as preferably off-site also (on OSX I really enjoy backblaze, it 'just works', and is cheap as chips).

                                          Auto-tiering is a pain in the ass, great on paper, but generally does not live up to it's promise.

                                          Keep it as simple as possible, less chance of it breaking.

                                          Example of SSD in optical bay;http://www.mcetech.com/optibay/

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                                            ^ I initially planned on doing that, but got a 480 GB SSD instead.

                                            If you can afford it just get a big SSD, otherwise Snowy's suggestion is definitely the best solution, who needs optical drives anyway these days.

                                            edit: here is a helpful thread on macrumors -> http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1347247

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