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    • natehateN
      natehate
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      @tatmantall:

      That is the boot I was referring to a few weeks ago when joking with Giles. That inside out boot is garbage….

      On a different note (sort of), and someone else mentioned this, for being so anti horsehide sure seems like they use a lot of it when it comes to their samples, yet when I tried to get a horsehide engineer boot made They wouldn't even consider it for a second

      i feel that sting to brother
      were you after the 310 toe?

      don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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      • bagley920B
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        If an item is ugly, which in my opinion that boot is with the Horween stamp on the outside, people aren't gonna be shy about it. Not sure what the purpose is but aesthetically it isn't pleasing. Part of Vibergs appeal is that they are pleasing to the eye. That one is not. If you like it, go for it, but for probably close to $1K, I'll pass on the ugly boots

        If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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          I give them full marks for doing something different. I see it as a form of stating that they are not blindly held by tradition and that there's no sacred cows (or horses as the case my be). They thought about 'what if' and did it. Something that AFAIK no one us have ever even thought of, let alone done. I love it.

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          • bagley920B
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            But would you wear them??

            If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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              @Snowy:

              I give them full marks for doing something different. I see it as a form of stating that they are not blindly held by tradition and that there's no sacred cows (or horses as the case my be). They thought about 'what if' and did it. Something that AFAIK no one us have ever even thought of, let alone done. I love it.

              Thats the whole idea behind, I'm glad that someone get it. I strongly doubt it that those boots go on production, so no need for "sharp analysis".

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              • bagley920B
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                Why waste the time and resources "fucking around?"

                If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                  It's part of how we learn and evolve as a species. Putting things tech focused Google have "20 percent time" where they force their staff to waste time and resources "fucking around". Gmail was one such product that came from that.

                  There's also something to say about the joy of creation, and moving beyond the utility, which these boots speak to beautifully. It's part of the age old questions; What purpose does art serve? What's the point of philosophy?

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                  • bagley920B
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                    I understand that, just don't see the point in making something you know from the start won't go into production. Just my 2 cents

                    If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                    • GilesG
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                      Haraki makes a load of stuff that will not go into production and he knows that when he starts.  It is all part of getting a better understanding of the possible and the impossible….

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • tatmantallT
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                        I agree with snowmans points despite my displeasure in viewing these. I also agree with the statement that a lot of the contempt for these is probably sourced from, at least for those of us who have tried, being told how much of a pain it is to use such materials and not giving it a second thought when we have placed requested such materials for our custom orders and then not only using these material but flaunting the point by doing something like this that to many feels like a "waste" of material when customers, in particularly me, are told they dont even have the materisl available. Though I'm sure it was not a conscious slap in the face, at least I hope not, it certainly does deliver the same effect.

                        "I know to you it may sound strange, but I wish it would rain…"- The Temptations

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                        • mclaincauseyM
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                          Have you asked if you could provide the material to them?

                          Think it, be it.

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                          • tatmantallT
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                            @natehate:

                            @tatmantall:

                            That is the boot I was referring to a few weeks ago when joking with Giles. That inside out boot is garbage….

                            On a different note (sort of), and someone else mentioned this, for being so anti horsehide sure seems like they use a lot of it when it comes to their samples, yet when I tried to get a horsehide engineer boot made They wouldn't even consider it for a second

                            i feel that sting to brother
                            were you after the 310 toe?

                            I had sent my idea and was trying to capture a 40s look I thought either the 160 last or 2030(? I think it was 2030) for a narrower toe box, without reinforced to allow the toe box to collapse. I was told they didn't use HH for their builds except two specific customers and didnt have any available anyway.

                            "I know to you it may sound strange, but I wish it would rain…"- The Temptations

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                            • mclaincauseyM
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                              @Snowy:

                              It's part of how we learn and evolve as a species. Putting things tech focused Google have "20 percent time" where they force their staff to waste time and resources "fucking around". Gmail was one such product that came from that.

                              That's not really what 20 percent time is.  Google vets and approves the projects that people work on, and they retain ownership of the projects.  It's not like Google engineers can just say, for example,  "I want to make a video game for Xbox"; they just get a day to work on something that isn't in their job description.  It can be as mundane as fixing something that's broken or making some iterative improvement to an existing product.

                              Unlike many of the 20% time projects, I don't think this project advances Viberg's interests in the slightest, but that's just my opinion.

                              Think it, be it.

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                              • tatmantallT
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                                @mclaincausey:

                                Have you asked if you could provide the material to them?

                                I have not, around that time I began discussions with John lofgren for one of his baladassi builds. Clearly they had no interest, and I won't beg anyone to take my money.

                                "I know to you it may sound strange, but I wish it would rain…"- The Temptations

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                                • PeterP
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                                  hello chukkas! these are slightly too generous length wise, but i think ill be fine! not comfy at all though haha, as a lot of people find their vibergs to be out of the box. heavy duty shit.

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                                    What size did you pick up?

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                                    • PeterP
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                                      ^8½

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                                      • madmondayM
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                                        Friday your family photo is dope.  All great boots.

                                        Nice pick up as well Peter.

                                        head high, middle finger higher

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                                        • SpaceGnomeS
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                                          @Giles:

                                          Haraki makes a load of stuff that will not go into production and he knows that when he starts.  It is all part of getting a better understanding of the possible and the impossible….

                                          but would he use some rare natural dye indigo, hand woven denim for a one off, "lets see if this works" type of thing?  Im not sure that would be very practical.  I get thinking outside the box, but what I have a problem (i use "problem" loosely, as Im not really invested in this aside from the discussion) with is using a material thats apparently in short supply and one that they seem to refuse to loyal and paying customers.  Whatever, I just find it an odd move on their part.

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                                          • tatmantallT
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                                            @SpaceGnome:

                                            but would he use some rare natural dye indigo, hand woven denim flipped inside out for a one off

                                            Fixed  😉

                                            … And I agree I don't have a "problem" so to speak.... I agree it just seems like a very odd move when several customers who have dropped quite a bit if loot with them get turned down and then just use it one more of a statement piece but its their company I'm sure if they wanted my opinion they would ask 🙂

                                            "I know to you it may sound strange, but I wish it would rain…"- The Temptations

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