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    IH-666L - The Devil's Left Hand

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      Snowy
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      @nietenhosen:

      thats your problem, best to pick up both.. 😉

      What's likely to happen super long term ;). Need to be a bit more faithful to individual models. Already splitting my time across 2 brides 😉

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        theding
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        I bought my first pair of raw denim jeans in the form of some RRLs about a year ago, but wasn't completely satisfied with the fit after some wear (too tight in the thigh and too loose in the waist and seat) so have been lurking on here for a while trying to decide what pair to go for.

        By chance I had a few hours to kill between trains in Brighton and visited Peggs & son to try on some Edwins when I saw the 666S and 666L Iron Hearts (I didn't realise there were any physical stores stocking Iron Heart in the UK). I loved the look of the 666L and, after some brilliant service and advice, walked out with a pair of 34s. The fit is fantastic and they look awesome.

        After reading through this thread I have a question though; I thought the point of raw denim was that you didn't wash the jeans, but there is a lot of talk on here about pre and post soak. Should I be soaking them before I wear them? If so, why? I'm sure the guy who sold me them probably explained but he gave me so much information (I'm really new to all this) that not all of it sunk in.

        Sorry for the long first post. I hope some of you persevered to the end and can help me out.

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        • SeulS
          Seul
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          Yeah: these are raw jeans/ unsanforised and do require a soak…

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            seren
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            I concur. Also, have a look here http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2215.0

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            • GilesG
              Giles
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              Thank you seren.  The non wash myth is bollocks espoused by a few manufacturers….But they are your jeans, you do what you want with them...

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                theding
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                Thanks all for your replies. Sorry I missed the product care post myself.

                And Giles, it was the girl that sold me my RRLs who said not to wash. I'm inclined to take your advice over hers. Especially on your product.

                Now I'm off to run a bath…

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                • GilesG
                  Giles
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                  The fundamental points are that you need to get the starch out of denim and get the constructional stitching bedded in.  If you don't, and it matters not what make the jeans, you will reduce the life of the jean

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • nietenhosenN
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                    and post soak.

                    shrinkage is less (didn't measured, but feels like predicted a few posts back) than expected for raw denim, maybe a special feature of this denim, or the lht?
                    I don't care, fits great.

                    www.schmidtkoeln.de

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                      theding
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                      Soaked as advised. No idea of shrinkage measurements but they certainly feel snug in the waist. Prefer stacking them to cuffs and was expecting to need to get them hemmed but I reckon the length is good.

                      Already my favourite pair of jeans I have ever owned. And already eyeing up the 25oz 666.

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                      • GingerMagicianG
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                        Nice fit, theding - could do with a cuff or some hem-love though imo… 😉

                        Simon

                        @Megatron1505:

                        > You're not even bloody ginger  >:(

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                          theding
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                          @GingerMagician:

                          Nice fit, theding - could do with a cuff or some hem-love though imo… 😉

                          Thanks. I did try a cuff but not something I'd normally do and worry that if I get them hemmed I risk going too short. Such a hard life I lead…

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                          • Finn666F
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                            the fit in the top looks spot on imo…but i´d adjust the fit from knee down. let them hem (~2" off) and you´re good to go imo!

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                            1" hem is good, 2" is even better, so Chris is right!

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                            • ChrisC
                              Chris
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                              You could easily hem 2-3 inches, which would clean up how they look, and still not have to worry about going too short.

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                                Cuff em the thing 🙂 🙂 i was never a cuff guy in earlier days now I even double cuff and nothing to worry about 🙂 you still can hem after you broke em in imo

                                Cheers,
                                David

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                                • tatmantallT
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                                  I second davitos comment

                                  "I know to you it may sound strange, but I wish it would rain…"- The Temptations

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                                    theding
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                                    Reckon I'll give cuffing them a go. Partly because I don't want to be without them for a while when I only just bought them.

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                                      theding
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                                      Thanks everyone for your comments.

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                                        @davito:

                                        Cuff em the thing 🙂 🙂 i was never a cuff guy in earlier days now I even double cuff and nothing to worry about 🙂 you still can hem after you broke em in imo

                                        davito speaks truth. Cuff Em, Double Cuff Em. Once you hem you can't go back, but you'll likely love the cuff ;). I do 3" cuffs whenever I get the chance now 😉

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                                          theding
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                                          Been wearing them for a few days and you guys are right - they are too long so need to be hemmed or cuffed. Noticed something unfortunate though.

                                          On the right leg they seem to be twisted. The seam that runs down the outside twists inwards so the selvedge is sat just to the right of the tongue of my shoes. Is this a sign I did something wrong when I soaked them? I left them for an hour in the bath and then drip dried from a hanger over the bath for a couple of days.

                                          Any thoughts?

                                          Matt

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                                          • SeulS
                                            Seul
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                                            Normal…

                                            http://loomstate.blogspot.be/2013/01/the-twisted-truth-leg-twist.html

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