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    • simoncS
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      problem with blending food is the stomach doesn't work to extract the vitamins or break down the food in chunks and leaves you hungry fast.  Also remember fruits are sugars with the exception of berries, orange juice has more sugar in it that a can of coke so beware of smoothies, they are usually for Laurel Canyon babes who need to instagram something after a sweat.

      Try blending Flax/Linseeds and adding a heaped spoon to a serving of fullfat yogurt with some berries, zero sugars, zero carbs and lots of protein.  Also eggs again zero carbs.  Great way to start the day.

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      • Finn666F
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        just stumbled over this brilliant post:

        "why i eat paleo"

        http://www.fitbomb.com/p/why-i-eat-paleo.html

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        • derivative666D
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          Paleo is working for me. I am down 45lbs

          "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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          • simoncS
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            Atkins for hipsters, sweet.

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            • Finn666F
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              @derivative666:

              Paleo is working for me. I am down 45lbs

              got damn, that´s a whole fucking lot…much respect Jeff and congrats. great to see it´s working!

              if you don´t mind, could you share a "normal day of eating" with us?

              i´m still trying to figure what to eat and when...basically it´s a high protein and high fat diet only (besides the few carbs out of the vegetables and such), right?

              how long are you into it now btw.?

              going to the gym now (only had coffee and scrambled eggs and a sausage as breakfast!)...

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              • simoncS
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                Finn, I live on this diet, see what i eat above for breakfast, it's the best, lunch i have an omelette with ham and cheese and dinner is meat and veg no starch and usually yoghurt again for desert with berries and ground flax seed.  You can lose about a kilo a week without training, with a daily jog 1.5 kilos a week easy.  Start drinking green tea it destroys fat and alas you have to give up the coffee it does the opposite oh and sadly booze, that has to go.  With the exception of white spirits ie Vodka and soda, zero carbs in that.  Good thread.

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                • mclaincauseyM
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                  @simonc:

                  problem with blending food is the stomach doesn't work to extract the vitamins or break down the food in chunks and leaves you hungry fast.  Also remember fruits are sugars with the exception of berries, orange juice has more sugar in it that a can of coke so beware of smoothies, they are usually for Laurel Canyon babes who need to instagram something after a sweat.

                  Try blending Flax/Linseeds and adding a heaped spoon to a serving of fullfat yogurt with some berries, zero sugars, zero carbs and lots of protein.  Also eggs again zero carbs.  Great way to start the day.

                  This doesn't make much sense to me. Mastication also breaks down food. It's not like I'm juicing, the dietary fiber is still there. Which is why comparing fruit to a soda is also a fallacy.

                  Think it, be it.

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                  • simoncS
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                    of course its all in there liquid or in chunks, but liquid passes through the body fast, food doesn't; chew your food don't drink it - simple.  And you should read the labels oj has as much if not more sugar than a can of coke.  Fruit is a no no on a diet with the exception of berries.

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                    • mclaincauseyM
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                      I don't drink juice and I don't put much fruit in my smoothies. I agree about liquid absorbing differently and satiety being affected. I have a harder time believing the whirring blades of a blender have more of an impact on fiber than the chomping of incisors, grinding of molars, and the effects of saliva and stomach acid. Sure it's possible, but I'd have to see the research. If you chew your food the bolus isn't that different than what you get with a coarse-ground smoothie.

                      Fruit is not a no-no and is indicated by every paleo diet I've seen. Fruit without dietary fiber is the no-no, like OJ.

                      Think it, be it.

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                      • Finn666F
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                        so for those guys that are into this kinda topic…

                        what do you have as breakfast, meal, diner during a day?
                        do you keep the "3 meals a day" rule or how do you handle things?

                        since sugar isn´t allowed...what about saccharin and things like diet coke or coke zero?

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                        • mclaincauseyM
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                          Honestly I won't touch a soda. I think artificial sweeteners other than stevia are probably worse than sugar, and that there are plenty of other nasty toxins in most sodas, I think toxic amounts of phosphorous in Cole for example. I tend to do 3 meals and milk throughout the day. Ideal breakfast is steak and pastured, omega 3 enriched eggs with a cup of fruit. Lunch is usually a steak salad or similar with fruit.  Dinner is usually fish and veggies with a little fruit, usually low carb like berries or an apple. Since I'm bulking I am even more protein heavy, lots of whole pastured milk for me.

                          Think it, be it.

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                          • Finn666F
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                            thanks lad, sounds good to me! not sure if i can do steak in the morning though 😛 need some eggs and maybe something else like berries and yoghurt (thanks simon!)…
                            i use omega3 and zinc chelat pills, as well as one or two whey protein shakes a day...just as "support" and directly after a session at the gym i.e.!

                            the last meal is going to be some thuna with a handful nuts or 2 spoons of linsead oil and maybe some veggies!

                            had this today already:

                            1. whey protein shake!

                            2. breakfast (30min. after 1)!)

                            3. whey protein shake 30min. before workout + 2 spoons linseed oil

                            4. whey protein shake direct after workout

                            5. post workout meal (30-60min. after 4))

                            6. low fat quark + 1 spoon linseed + handful almonds + tiny tiny bit of jam

                            edit: added 6)

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                            • mclaincauseyM
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                              Look aces to me, brotha!

                              Think it, be it.

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                              • simoncS
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                                yeah i second bob on above, Raffa you are cutting like me, so make sure its always *full fat Greek Style Yogurt, strained, as FF has no carbs in it.  Same as full fat milk that too is good.  Carbs are your enemy for cutting you can take only 30-40 grams a day until fat burning stops and fat growing edges.  So 30 grams is like two slices of toast, small bag crisps, he he he, so use your carbs carefully, ie. eat really brown carbs, as at least those carbs have the fiber for roughage, ie dark german bread versus baguette (sad face bro).

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                                • Finn666F
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                                  I love dark german bread so that shouldn't be a problem but I think I'm going to cut'em all with no excuses, so no bread for me I guess!

                                  btw. my final meal of the day was:
                                  6) ~350g low fat quark + 1 spoon linseed oil + handful almonds + tiny tiny bit of jam to add some flavor

                                  so let's see how day's going to start…so after day 1 is almost over I have to say that i don't have a feeling that something (carbs) was missing. the gym workout was dope as well...let's see if I do say the same thing after being a few days/weeks into it though 😛

                                  tomorrow i'll do some pre diet measuring and pics ^^

                                  thanks a lot y'all! much appreciated...

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                                  • simoncS
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                                    simple trick is nothing white with meal; bread, rice, pasta, potato.

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                                    • toddjcoleyT
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                                      Today is my second day of diet and have to say I feel a lot less hungry inbetween meals.

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                                      • bagley920B
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                                        How do you guys do your lunches? Hard for me to bring anything other than salad to work and salad dressing doesn't seem to be paleo or whole 30

                                        If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                                        • simoncS
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                                          Try bringing in boiled eggs even chopping them into a salad, a stick of kebanos is a great snack.

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                                          • Finn666F
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                                            @toddjcoley:

                                            Today is my second day of diet and have to say I feel a lot less hungry inbetween meals.

                                            was/is also my 2nd day today…thing go pretty well so far. not hungry at all between the meals but i always look forward to the next meal tbh. 😃

                                            now it´s time to prepare the last meal...omelet time 😘

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