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    • tigerpacT
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      Hmmm not quite the marketing I was looking for.  100.. 200 seems good for lower quality machine made but over 300 for lower quality machine made just seems off to me…

      Sigh the search continues....

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        I've seen and tried on Red Wings and I now own Hathorn Northwests. IMO, Red Wings feel like disposable boots next to Hathorn boots.

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        • ChrisC
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          Yeah, machine construction can still be extremely well made, as long as the Quality Control is on top of things, and "lower quality" isn't low quality, especially when we're talking about White's.

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          • tigerpacT
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            I can totally see that.  I think Red Wings are crazy overpriced for what you get though- feel like my Thorogoods are as good as RWs I've tried on but were 1/2 the price, below $140.

            Guess my cost/value perception could be off here, if I can't get something that great for over 300 I'm thinking to just wait and get the White's next year.  Better leather and hand-stitching seems worth the +200…

            Recent watch purchase killed the expendable spending for some time so was trying to have my cake and eat it too but guess not!

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            • BlackheartB
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              Tiger, check Wesco's factory seconds page, great boots on the cheap! They might have a blemish or were a
              cancelled order or a returned pair. I got three pairs this way and all were new. 😉

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              • tigerpacT
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                Thanks!  How often do they add new pairs on there?

                Took a quick look - nothing on point for what I'm looking for right now but will check back

                While I'm feeling lucky - any recommendations for something in the  5"-6" height, burgundy/red leather, mini-lug type sole family? 😃

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                • urbanwoodsmanU
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                  Hathorn Traveler

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                  • tigerpacT
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                    That'd be the original subject of interest yes

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                    • urbanwoodsmanU
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                      @tigerpac:

                      That'd be the original subject of interest yes

                      Bakers has them for $298($310 + $12off code "twitter")

                      Red Wings are $290-330 for a similar style. Why would you buy Red Wings?

                      The Hathorn line is to Whites as Triple Works is to Iron Heart, IMHO.

                      Also, if you're part of the Boot Comp you can get a pair of Whites Bounter Hunters for as low as $378 after the promo code.

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                      • Megatron1505M
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                        @urbanwoodsman:

                        Bakers has them for $298($310 + $12off code "twitter")

                        Red Wings are $290-330 for a similar style. Why would you buy Red Wings?

                        This is all you need to think about.

                        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                        • tigerpacT
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                          Should have signed up for that boot comp!

                          Didn't realize the Bounty Hunters were 'only' 415 or so - not really thaaaat bad… looking at Baker's site I'm a little overwhelmed by the amount of options, not sure exactly what I'd like best!

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                          • BlackheartB
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                            Tiger, Wesco  adds new boots to the factory seconds page every day. Depends on the boot though, might only
                            be one pair or a whole set from a cancelled order…Keep an eye on it daily and good luck! 🙂

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                            • GilesG
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                              @urbanwoodsman:

                              The Hathorn line is to Whites as Triple Works is to Iron Heart, IMHO.

                              The difference is that Triple Works and Iron Heart are designed by the same people, made in the same factories, made by the same people using the same construction methods.  That is not true of Hathorn and Whites.

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • SeulS
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                                And to add: buying Red Wings at full price = amateur hour…

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                                • Finn666F
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                                  @Seul:

                                  And to add: buying Red Wings at full price = amateur hour…

                                  that's pretty damn right E. 😃

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                                  • Megatron1505M
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                                    Like Whites said themselves, Hathorn uses lower quality material and construction. Tripleworks does not.

                                    None of this is to say that Hathorn are not great boots, because they certainly are, as others have said they are far higher standard than Red Wings, Chippewa, et al…

                                    Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                    • urbanwoodsmanU
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                                      @Giles:

                                      @urbanwoodsman:

                                      The Hathorn line is to Whites as Triple Works is to Iron Heart, IMHO.

                                      The difference is that Triple Works and Iron Heart are designed by the same people, made in the same factories, made by the same people using the same construction methods.  That is not true of Hathorn and Whites.

                                      It was actually meant as a compliment. I just see the Hathorn line as a lightweight version of Whites.

                                      Hathorns are designed by the same people, made in the same factory(USA), made from most of the same materials, and made using mostly the same construction methods.

                                      I think White's email response was just worded badly and referring to the Hathorn Explorer line. The "lower" quality they are referring to is still higher than 80% of Red Wings, Danner, Wolverine, etc. There are three Hathorn lines (yes, very confusing), "Hathorn Hi-Line," "Hathorn," and "Hathorn Explorer." As far as I can tell most of the "Hathorn Hi-Line" and "Hathorn" lines are constructed the exact same way as Whites being handmade with possibly lighter weight leathers, depending on the boot model. You can get custom "Hathorn" boots using the exact same leathers that a pair of "Whites" are made of. Also, let's not forget that all of these boots use Vibram soles. The "Hathorn Explorer" line is all machine welted just like Alden, Red Wings, Danner, Wolverine, etc.

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                                      • GilesG
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                                        Thanks for the compliment, I just wanted to make sure that people understood there is no difference in quality between TW & IH.  A difference in approach and sometimes weight, but not quality.

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        • tigerpacT
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                                          Alright all you bad influences, you've talked me into a proper pair of White's.  Looking at the Bounty Hunters that were suggested… beautiful stuff.  I now ask for the collective wisdom of the group for suggestions/improvements/answers to the following questions...

                                          Sizing:  I wear a 10EE in Thorogoods, keep the same size for White's?

                                          My initial customization has the following:  tell me what's right and what's wrong in your opinion please:

                                          Burgundy french calf - vamp, counter, upper  (want a nice rich red color)
                                          Brown Edge (or does natural match up with the red better?)
                                          Single midsole (maybe double?)
                                          single celastic toe
                                          brass hardware
                                          top cut
                                          traveler heel base
                                          standard lift
                                          leather loop pulls

                                          Edit Also vibrum mini 430 sole... I think

                                          Is there a better dark red leather to look into?

                                          thanks!

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                                          • ChrisC
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                                            Don't know about sizing, but I'd go with a natural midsole.  With use, it will darken to about the same color as the brown if you decide you don't like it.

                                            Also, French calf isn't a tough leather, so keep in mind that it will show scuffs, scrapes and other marks more easily than regular cow hide.  That may not be a concern for you, but it's worth mentioning.

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