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I have now had my Roy raw ducks for a couple of days now and they are pretty great. I wanted to do a little comparison between them and my 801s that I've owned for about a year or so now. When comparing these pants, the first detail that is incredibly obvious is how different the fabrics feel and behave. The 11 ounce Cone duck comes unsanforized and is light and crispy. Mine are still very new, so they are still settling but I can see how these will evolve as they are becoming softer by the hour. The IH 17 ounce duck is slightly stiff, heavy and substantial. There is a reason why I wear these to do all of my yard work. After owning them for a year despite some damage from abrasion they still look very new.
(showing the difference in fabrics/ Cone selvedge line)
(thickness comparison)
Construction wise, I don't know how to compare them as both are at the top of their game. Gratuitous triple stitching, riveted reinforcements, and the 801s have a double knee which has grown on me considerably. The ONLY things I miss about my pair of loggers is a leather patch and back pocket rivets. The Roy pair has hidden rivets and a cool flasher to remind you of it too.
(Triple stitching everywhere and Roy's unique vintage clamshell stitching on the fly)
(Back pocket detailing)
(Belt loop comparison)- IH has a much more substantial loop, but the Roy loops are again made on vintage machines and are kinda neat.
(Front pocket comparison)
To be honest, I love both pairs of pants and I don't know if I can pick a favorite. I'll probably keep the IH for yard work/heavy chores and I'll wear the Roys a bit more day to day. I wore my Roy ducks to church and around town today and they dress up well. I think that the IH would also if not for the double knee. Either way you go, both are great and I'm happy to have them in my collection
- IH has a much more substantial loop, but the Roy loops are again made on vintage machines and are kinda neat.
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Anesthetist, excellent review. Thank you. The Roy's are my first pair of ducks and I was curious how they compared to IH. I was planning on doing a similar review after an 816 purchase. You beat me to it. I haven't been able to wear the Roy's as much as I would like – due to weather -- but they have gotten considerably more comfortable after 5-10 wears. Enjoy them in good health, and thanks again for the review.
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Went to SESF on friday and got a chance to wear and examine the Roy Ducks. Amazing fabric. Like Anesthetist said, the fabric is crisp and not so rough. I assume its because of it being unsanforized.
What really impressed me was the detailing. So much good details. From the zipper fly stitching to the chainstitched signature on the pocket bags.
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Slightly bigger or a 2" one cuff gets my vote
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For anyone interested, the new Roy jeans go on sale this Saturday. They look like the same Cone 14.5 unsanforized fabric as the RS-04 and RN-04 models and have what look like cotton duck pockets.
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i'll hold back on phenomenal til the measurements are posted
they are posted. Measurements are almost identical to the RS04, but Kiya says that the fit is different somehow…
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I was just looking at the measurements, too. Overall, I am pretty disappointed. If I'm reading things correctly, it looks like the inseam will only be 34", after soaking. I feel like Roy screwed up there. 35-36" should be the absolute minimum, right?
Measurements are almost identical to the RS04, but Kiya says that the fit is different somehow…
They also appear to be more generous in the waist. I prefer the sizing of the RS-04. I do admit, however, the details on this latest model are excellent.
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I picked up some of the RS04's a few months back and am way in love with the denim. It's light and tight. Brilliant IMHO. These look really promising…
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Yeah, Z, I received a pair of the RS04s for Christmas, but they weren't the right size. I exchanged for the Roy Ducks – which I love -- and I was excited for the next release. The denim really is fantastic. I'm sure it only gets better with wear, too. MikeC should be all over this. 14.5oz, loomstate, unsanforized, American cotton, etc... Purely based on measurements, I prefer the RS04 to this new model, though.
