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    • JCar2666J
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      Not that I care what H uses but I was surprised to read that he made the switch too.  Won't that change the softness of Iron Hearts denim quite a bit?  Or has it already happened and I haven't even noticed in my jeans?

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      • GilesG
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        It has happened and no one noticed, me included.  He specifies a quality and that's what he gets.

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        • ChrisC
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          You can get high quality long staple cotton from lots of places.  The fact that Haraki could switch it and no one, including Giles, had the slightest idea of the change shows that the cotton's country of origin is overrated.

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            Shouldn't this lower the price of the jeans?

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            • GilesG
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              Why? Haraki specifies what he needs, that is what he buys, it's not like he's buying inferior stuff from the US…..

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                I understand what your saying, and not trying to be a jerk, just wondering, cause he says specifically , HK:" When I started, Zimbabwe cotton was very famous in Japan. The quality was also very good, so I chose it. It has a long staple so it can be twisted tightly and it makes for good soft denim. If I wanted to make thick denim it doesn’t really matter if the cotton has a long staple to be frank."

                I take that as he doesn't need the softest cotton anymore..

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                • GilesG
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                  He is using American cotton of the same quality as he found in the Zimbabwean cotton.

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • O
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                    Not a cotton expert, will the origins of cotton make them fade/wear differently? 
                    I hope I am not being way off here (and it won't have an impact on my interest in IH), but I would have much preferred to hear it first, more like a PR issue I'd say.

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                    • GilesG
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                      Haraki buys the stuff he needs.  He specs it and it it meets spec that is good enough for him.  He did this years ago, he did not feel it was necessary to tell me because the end result is no different.  Had he told me, I would have updated the IH.UK website.

                      I repeat, no one noticed, which included me.

                      As far as Haraki is concerned, he specs and buys the stuff he needs to perform a specific function.  It's like when I asked him if the loop wheeled Tee's were loopwheeled, he did not know because to him it is largely irrelevant, if what he specs does the job, does it matter?

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • SeulS
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                        I'm actually glad it's US cotton now…  🙂

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                        • FurattoHeddoF
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                          Seems obvious now that as long as it is a quality long staple cotton it matters nought what the country of origin is, but it also shows how easily a perception or even a "myth" is created in people's minds, most of us myself included believed the signature softness of IH denim existed because of the Zimbabwe cotton, lesson learned I guess 🙂 …

                          "Don't ever be sorry"

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                          • GilesG
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                            If it is any consolation, so did I…..

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • llvlaglneL
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                              can't say it better  furatto. but i'm happier now knowing that the cotton is sourced from america

                              "…think of a world tour as similar as to the sisterhood of the traveling pants." -LandoCal126

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                              • M
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                                Can I say my IH-634SV are made of American cotton?  I would love to start saying that…..

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                                • GilesG
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                                  You can…..

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    Word!!!

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                                    • ChrisC
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                                      This is completely idle curiosity, but I wonder why the Japanese importer of Zimbabwe cotton decided to start tinting it green?  Seems like a really dumb thing to do, as it would tend to drive away customers who want/need the cotton to be white for production and dyeing.  Sent Iron Heart to another supplier, after all…

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                                        @JCar2666:

                                        A talk with the Boss

                                        http://halloffade.com/travel-blog-11-iron-heart-boss-haraki-the-iron-legend-of-the-far-east/

                                        this is funny, hall of fade and gun are the ones using haraki's b/c grade denim they bought off the mill and pissed off haraki and now he's got to buy all that denim. saintkeat should have asked haraki how he felt about that

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                                        • GilesG
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                                          With great thanks to Snowy and Chris, we have a Wikipedia entry…..

                                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Heart_(Brand)

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          • SaintkeatS
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                                            @jacoavlu:

                                            @JCar2666:

                                            A talk with the Boss

                                            http://halloffade.com/travel-blog-11-iron-heart-boss-haraki-the-iron-legend-of-the-far-east/

                                            this is funny, hall of fade and gun are the ones using haraki's b/c grade denim they bought off the mill and pissed off haraki and now he's got to buy all that denim. saintkeat should have asked haraki how he felt about that

                                            Hey,

                                            First post, glad to be on the forum and great to hear some interesting points are being brought up from the interview. I'll just like to address this rehash from a not so pleasant history, to clear the air a bit. Gun from artist sourced denim from around the world on his own accord. We at Hall of Fade wanted to collaborate on a sweet pair so we were presented with several rolls with not a whole lot of description on each one. We saw 2 fabrics that looked pretty sweet, picked it, put it in production. By the time we found out where they came from, it was too late, money was spent, product had been made. It's a point in history we'd like to move on from and we're going to be as careful as is humanly possible for the next sets of collabs with other brands in the future.

                                            Thanks Snowy and Chris for the references on Wiki! Page looks great and the information is a great read. Looked like it took quite a bit of effort to put together to form a story like that.

                                            Chris, I suspect that the green tone added to the Zim cotton is an extremely light hue, that serves as a kind of distinctive branding. If you walked into a room with piles and piles of cotton, you'd know straight away it was Zim just from the light greenish hue. Well, that's my suspicion.

                                            Anyways, looking forward to working with Iron Heart and their many partners for many years to come. I'll endeavour to write better articles or manage events that would make it very interesting for all of you in the near future.

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