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    IH-555-02 - 18oz Selvedge Denim Super Slim Jeans - Indigo

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    • thompsoaT
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      @Giles:

      @thompsoa:

      as we all know, soaking will release a lot of the excess dye.

      No we don't because it doesn't.  Washing with a lot of agitation may, but a mere soak will not.

      @Giles:

      @thompsoa:

      as we all know, soaking will release a lot of the excess dye.

      No we don't because it doesn't.  Washing with a lot of agitation may, but a mere soak will not.

      rephrase, a lot, no, but remove some? usually yes….kinda derailed though, just wanted to know if the newly liberated indigo dye in my jeans would cease staining everything with another, longer soak, however I believe the people have spoken, and consensus says my hands and light colored fabrics shall suffer... much thanks

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      • GilesG
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        Another soak will make no difference unless you agitate a lot.

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          @MikeC:

          Bleeding denim is definitely part of the Japanese Denim Game….

          In fact, it's how I know the game is on. No indigo bleed = no game.

          Absurd as it is, my parents don't let me sit on anything light coloured just incase I'm wearing fresh denim. Even they respect the quality of Japanese Denim.

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          • seanoconoS
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            @Snowy:

            Absurd as it is, my parents don't let me sit on anything light coloured just incase I'm wearing fresh denim. Even they respect the quality of Japanese Denim.

            Haha, that's great.

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            • ben2tB
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              maybe Geeman has this, i am thinking of running another stitch on the out seam as a fix.
              .   

              MY DENIM MY RULES!
              Noypits…

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              • GeemanG
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                That's just how mine looks! It's very visible down the length of both legs, even more so at the knees when legs are bent. I have had never had this much seem visible before on any jeans from 14 to 22oz.

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                • llvlaglneL
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                  You guys sure its not when you turned your Jains inside out during the soaking process?

                  Sent from my iPhone

                  "…think of a world tour as similar as to the sisterhood of the traveling pants." -LandoCal126

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                  • ben2tB
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                    NO its not about the method of soaking as i don't do inside out but other than that everything about the jeans is superb especially the denim fabric, it might not be the best fitting i am looking for but it still look great on me. I am looking forward for a different experience on my next IH purchase a Devil's Fit OD.

                    MY DENIM MY RULES!
                    Noypits…

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                    • thompsoaT
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                      Has anyone else experienced this problem with the seat of these jeans. The stitching is causing the back stick straight out and sag (more). Did I put these on too soon out of the tub and need to shrink them back down again? I don't think thats the case, it seems the stitching is off, is this common? Thanks in advance for any help/input

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                      • GeemanG
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                        @llvlaglne:

                        You guys sure its not when you turned your Jains inside out during the soaking process?

                        Sent from my iPhone

                        i don't even see how you could stress the outer seam turning them inside out?? Like Ben I didn't expect it on a pair of £250 jeans.

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                        • llvlaglneL
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                          oh its possible. some of us on the forum applied too much stress to our 634s-RAWs and 634SRs. heavy weight fabric is difficult to tame during the soaking/washing process. there is room for this error, that's why i had asked

                          "…think of a world tour as similar as to the sisterhood of the traveling pants." -LandoCal126

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                            @thompsoa the rear rise is 5" higher than the front on these jeans, it looks to me that you've just not pulled them up high enough at the back, as they're looking parallel. Nothing to do with soaking IMO.

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                            • GeemanG
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                              I've never experienced that before? I know my 22's were stiff as he'll when soaked but never stressed a seam.

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                              • GilesG
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                                Geeman.  I don't really know what to say to all this.  There is no stress on the seam that will cause breakage.  I believe that I told you this via PM, so I can only conclude you do not believe me.  Every single pair of Vintage Levi's I have, shows the side seam stitching like this. IT IS NOT A CONSTRUCTIONAL ISSUE, if you do not like it, that is a matter of personal taste.

                                Thompsona As for the "sag" issue, you have wither got the wrong size or your body shape does not suit this cut.  The stitching is not "off"

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                • Finn666F
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                                  first of all, great to see you arrived safe and sound Giles…and now get that pig aka Seul out of Alex's bed 😃

                                  ...and for the other guys, a visible outseam (in the thigh area) is most of all an evidence of too much stress/stretch on the denim/threads caused by stretching/bending your legs, flexing your muscles etc. without having any space left and the denim having any way to go, so the denim stretches at its "weakest" point, which is where it's sewn together! so to me this looks a lot like that is the case, even though you wouldn't say so, but I have the same "problem" with my 21/23oz pair of 634S-RAW...there's enough of denim, but still the outseam threads are a bit visible...

                                  ...nothing to worry about though (in case of constructional quality)! if you ain't satisfied with the looks of it, well it is what it is...if you go for an OD pair as your next one, you might will have the same "problem" just not that visible, since the OD threads aren't that visible!
                                  good luck anyways 😉

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                                  • GeemanG
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                                    @Giles:

                                    Geeman.  I don't really know what to say to all this.  There is no stress on the seam that will cause breakage.  I believe that I told you this via PM, so I can only conclude you do not believe me.  Every single pair of Vintage Levi's I have, shows the side seam stitching like this. IT IS NOT A CONSTRUCTIONAL ISSUE, if you do not like it, that is a matter of personal taste.

                                    Thompsona As for the "sag" issue, you have wither got the wrong size or your body shape does not suit this cut.  The stitching is not "off"

                                    Giles, I never implied at any point I do not belive you or questioned your or the products integrity. In fact I think I responded to your PM thats its good to see someone with such confidence in their product. Its this reputattion that led me to choosing IH in the first place. I meant no offence I was just voicing my opinion and questions in the relevent forum?  You are right it is a personal thing, in my opinion I think it does the overall impression of quality no justice. It is something I have never came across in all the brands I have owned so thought this would be the best place to raise it. If I thought thte jeans were faulty I would have contacted you about returning them.  it would also appear from above that someone else is also concerned of the appearence of the seam stiching showing so Im not alone in that. Perhaps using a less contrasting colour for that thread that may become visible would be an idea going foreward? Like I said if it continues to bother me I'll just get an addiditonal seam run down the inside to pull it back together.

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                                      FYI, with this 18oz RAW fabric, it takes 3-4 months to settle properly.  A lot of the fit complaints like flared hips, ass sticking out, bulge showing, goes away with several wears.  My IH-634SV, made of the exact same fabric, still have areas that are not settled (stacks at outer selvage seam). I've been wearing them 4-5 days a week, since Oct 31, 2012.  If people have such an issue with raw, STF, they should get the Sanforized denim, IH-555-01….

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                                      • thompsoaT
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                                        @Giles:

                                        Geeman.  I don't really know what to say to all this.  There is no stress on the seam that will cause breakage.  I believe that I told you this via PM, so I can only conclude you do not believe me.  Every single pair of Vintage Levi's I have, shows the side seam stitching like this. IT IS NOT A CONSTRUCTIONAL ISSUE, if you do not like it, that is a matter of personal taste.

                                        Thompsona As for the "sag" issue, you have wither got the wrong size or your body shape does not suit this cut.  The stitching is not "off"

                                        Thanks for the input, I do like the way they fit it just seems the seat is awfully big. I do hike them up as far as the rise allows and it does the same thing. I don't mean to be a bother just wondering if you think this is a lost cause, will be something that settles down like others have suggested or maybe a hot soak with just that area of the jeans will help reduce the sizing a little? Thanks again

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                                        • GilesG
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                                          It'll settle a little as it moulds and gets soft.  It looks from the picture that you have too much fabric between the crotch and the rear rise (for your particular physique)so it is slouching and has to do so at the seam as that is a natural pivot point.

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          • Finn666F
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                                            ^^ I think your "problem" is being solved with the first real wash you're going to give them. until that time I'd just wear them and don't care (wear and don't compare as Mme B used to say!) 😉
                                            the wash will thighten everything in the right places so you should be save afterwards!…

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