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    IH-666S - The Devil's Fit Indigo - Slim Tapered

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      scoobtay
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      Bit of a bind here, and not sure if this is the right thread, but I'll give it a go anyway.  My current favorite denim has exactly a 32" waist, and the rest of the sizing is almost identical to that of the tagged 31 666's.  Should i size up to a 32"?  Or try the 31's.  My current pair are Naked and Famous Deep Indigo for reference.

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      • BluegrassB
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        @Giles:

        You will get more shrinkage if you place in hot water with some sort of lubricant and agitate the hell out of them.  You are trying to reduce the frictions between the warp and weft yarns as much a possible.

        Thanks G - I double checked measurements before and after - I actually gained 1/2" in the waist, lost a fraction in the rise/thigh/knee/leg, and lost only 1/2" in the inseam.  I think the inseam just "seems" a lot longer than my 21oz BBs due to where they sit on my waist due to the different cut.  And what do you mean by "lubricant" - detergent?  To be clear, are you saying try soaking again, real hot tap water, and agitate more (I didn't do that at all because I was worried about them shrinking too much). And how long?  Again, I can't say enough about this denim - I REALLY like the 21 oz but the raw is a whole other deal.  The texture is like nothing I've experienced - you can just tell they will be special.  Tx for your patience.

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        • BluegrassB
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          @scoobtay:

          Bit of a bind here, and not sure if this is the right thread, but I'll give it a go anyway.  My current favorite denim has exactly a 32" waist, and the rest of the sizing is almost identical to that of the tagged 31 666's.  Should i size up to a 32"?  Or try the 31's.  My current pair are Naked and Famous Deep Indigo for reference.

          Based on the one's I just got, the waist will really stretch back out and the shrinkage is minimal - for example, shrinkage on the devil's was nothing like the Roy4s I have.  I was really paranoid about the shrinkage, but it's not so much. It's always a tough call buying online, but I think you can manage the shrinkage and these will stretch out nicely (even though they are really "substantial" denim).  I got the same tag size in the raws as the sanforized - and that's going to be fine (for me).  You WILL NOT REGRET buying this denim - it is special.

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          • BluegrassB
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            @ian816:

            I should clarify that the snug was more for the waist (and even there not too bad) I have plenty of room in the thigh on the bb od. I have these from self edge http://www.selfedge.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=68&products_id=734 in a 32 and the thigh is snug but good. So all in all the 32 in the 666s should work. Thanks for all the help. I gotta say this is the friendliest and most snark free forum I have found.

            Agree you're safe with same tag size in raws and 21oz - that was good for me - the 18s stretch, esp. the waist.  But I don't know nuthin about how the overdyes behave… go with what the experts say.  But I can say the 18s are great - can't imagine you'll be disappointed - but obviously need to get sizing right.

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              "Ian, having owned both pairs in the same sizes, I suggest going with a size 33 in the 666S. My size 33 busters are my best fitting pair, and I had to sell my size 32 666S cause they were too tight"

              Elclintor, You had the buster over dyed right? And where they snug in the thigh or roomy? And where the 666s tight all over or just too tight in one place. I'm thinking the 32's will be spot on but now you have me wondering…

              Ian

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              • elclintorE
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                Busters have plenty of breathing room everywhere. The 666s were too tight in the top block and the thighs. They were fine for a while, but after a few washes they do shrink up.

                I'm looking to get a pair of 33 666S, because the denim is amazing.

                Geo

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                • richiealexanderR
                  richiealexander
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                  Haraki and Giles signed my devils 🙂

                  and the result:

                  HC-DR-01

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                    elclintor, just to clarify, the buster you had in a 33 was the over dyed correct?

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                    • elclintorE
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                      I've got both OD, and indigo in 33

                      Geo

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                        Finally soaked mine - my normal IH size is 32; went with a 33 in these due to thighs.

                        There's one particular area that's bothering me.  I'm not going to say what it is yet, because I'm wondering if anyone else will notice it, or if it's all in my head…. 😉

                        edit - Fack, let this be a lesson to everyone - this is what happens when it's winter, and you're pasty white, and you set your cam to +1EV to show greater detail in your dark jawns, and then post pics of yourself on the internet.

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                        • BluegrassB
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                          Haha, is the material "bulging out" some?  Is that what you are noticing?  I had the same issue - when I first got my BBs my wife immediately laughed and groped me - it's the same with the 18-Devils - wouldn't worry about it.  Only other thought I have is you might try soaking them again, real hot tap, and agitating them, to get all the shrinkage.  G suggested that to me (mine did not shrink much at all) but I haven't done it yet - gonna wear em awhile.  Personally I think they look like a good fit on you, but it appears you've definitely got some extra room - and for sure they will stretch - pretty quickly.  FYI I went with same tag size I normally wear in IH and glad I did.

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                          • Finn666F
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                            imo the fit is ace already! well done…

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                              I think fit is perfect dcg. This will shrink more with a few more washes. I went TTS W32 on mine and they were a little snug at the thigh area. They did stretch a bit but after the 2nd wash, I felt they shrunk again.

                              Should have gone with W33 but I still love this cut.

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                                @elclintor:

                                I've got both OD, and indigo in 33

                                do they fit the same? i only have the od.

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                                  Ah, yes, the bulge. I parted ways with my pair primarily because that area ends up looking and feeling ridiculous when walking up stairs.

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                                    Mr. Giles, does Haraki-san have a specific method on doing the initial soak for this denim? Also, can you please share your preferred method as well, including any tips on hand agitation, etc..? 🙂

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                                    • GilesG
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                                      Haraki soaks and then washes inside out in warm water.  I soak in hot water and agitate a lot, then hang dry.

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      • BluegrassB
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                                        @Giles:

                                        Haraki soaks and then washes inside out in warm water.  I soak in hot water and agitate a lot, then hang dry.

                                        Do you soak inside out, or does it matter?

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                                          @Giles:

                                          Haraki soaks and then washes inside out in warm water.  I soak in hot water and agitate a lot, then hang dry.

                                          Good to know sir. Do you just agitate for a few minutes here and there?

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                                          • GilesG
                                            Giles
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                                            I just sort of shake them in the water for a minute or so.

                                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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