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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Live Reveal - Thursday 12th of June at 1700BST

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    • SeulS
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      @Chris:

      I'll be interested to see how the new rainbow core fades over the next couple of years.

      I was hoping you were kidding… I like the red, but rainbow ?..

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      • netleyhunterN
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        I like that he's willing to take chances and try new things.  I'm not interested in most of what N&F puts out, but I respect the creativity.  I think the danger of toning it down is that the brand loses its distinctiveness and gets lost among all the other jeans makers in the same price range.

        Exactly, there are many "unknown" brands out there that are doing the exact same thing that many other brands are doing. The real crazy jeans like the colour change, glow in the dark or whatever may not appeal to true denim nerds, but it may appeal to a new, different type of client that wouldn't have bought raw denim simply for fades. (That's called marketing people). When Brandon does these wild and crazy denim projects, they uptake from denim media is all over it, it gets people talking about that brand. When a "generic raw denim brand" comes out with a new cut, or jean that is simliar to every other pair out there how often do you see media grab a hold of it?


        (The Chris guy from Ducks Unlimited Brandon is talking about is me)

        People watching that, see it are amazed a pair of jeans can stand on their own, that there is rasberry scented jeans and get on the old internet and check out the site. Marketing people! For every person here that looks at them and says what a stupid corney idea that is, there is another person who gets a laugh out of it and goes and picks up a pair.

        Live long, hunt hard.

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        • joesaintjohnJ
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          I don't know who this NetlyHunter is, but I like the shit out of him. If you ever wanna come shoot ducks at the bottom of the central flyway, I'd be more than happy to take you to a couple of our honey holes. It might be a fun challenge since they been shot at at bunch and are pretty wise to the way of the hunter…

          ...only caveat is you gotta be rocking some IH.

          Fat dudes need good clothes too.

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          • SeulS
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            Fuck marketing. Fuck gimmick jeans.

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            • ?
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              ^Thank you. (Though, it could be argued that heavy weight denim is a gimmick…)

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              • bagley920B
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                There is heavy denim and then there's raspberry scented denim…

                You do the math

                If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                • Megatron1505M
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                  You lot are not their target customer, for entry level raw selvedge denim N&F are great. You people are simply too old to appreciate it (as am I).

                  Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                  • Z
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                    Yep. Mega is right. Good gateway brand and for all their gimmicks they do some nicely priced basics. I have a pair of their LHTs as well as the second Momo and FH collabs. And a pair of customs I have yet to wear and really regret buying.

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                    • seanoconoS
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                      I will admit I am slightly curious how their 32oz feels. Otherwise, I completely agree with Mega.

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                      • ChrisC
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                        @zwer:

                        And a pair of customs I have yet to wear and really regret buying.

                        What are they and why do you regret them?

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                        • netleyhunterN
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                          There is heavy denim and then there's raspberry scented denim…

                          You do the math

                          Alright,

                          (Heavy denim - rasberry scented denim) + (coin pocket plus + wisker fades/weird guy fit) = What the heck are you talking about?  😶 😉

                          I will admit I am slightly curious how their 32oz feels. Otherwise, I completely agree with Mega.

                          I'm wearing the 32oz for the Heavy Weight comp, and we're allowed a 30 days of wear before the contest starts on April 1st. Been wearing them twice a week for the last 3 weeks. Stiff as heck and hard to move in them,but they will get pretty comfortable once I start wearing them full time.They aren't as bad as some might think. Then again, people have complained of lesser weight denim being too stiff, I never found this to be the case.

                          I don't know who this NetlyHunter is, but I like the shit out of him. If you ever wanna come shoot ducks at the bottom of the central flyway, I'd be more than happy to take you to a couple of our honey holes. It might be a fun challenge since they been shot at at bunch and are pretty wise to the way of the hunter…

                          ...only caveat is you gotta be rocking some IH.

                          Hey, thanks man would love to head south and shoot some ducks with your crew and picking up a pair of IH would icing on the cake. We're pretty lucky up here, birds have very little pressure and there are a ton of places to hunt. Never hunted waterfowl outside of Canada before, but maybe one day.  🙂

                          Live long, hunt hard.

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                          • seanoconoS
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                            netleyhunter, thanks for your thoughts re: the 32oz. I look forward to your updates in the HWDC2. The denim diversity in this comp. is the most intriguing part.

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                            • bagley920B
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                              Figure of speech. My point is that making heavier denim is not a gimmick, raspberry scent is

                              If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                              • ChrisC
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                                I disagree- heavier denim is a gimmick.  At some point, the weight of the fabric becomes an impediment, not a benefit.  Companies make it just to say they have the heaviest, most extreme jeans on the planet.  That's a gimmick.

                                Badly constructed jeans made from poor quality 36 oz denim won't last 3 times as long as well built jeans using top quality 12 oz denim.  In fact, they will probably fall apart faster.  Yet we all know which one would get the hype.  Scratch-n-sniff, glow in the dark, rainbow core, etc.may be goofy, but it's no less valid.

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                                • bagley920B
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                                  Which is why I won't ever wear 36oz denim. I suppose at some point heavier denim "can" be a gimmick but that line is relative.

                                  To me, I'm not sure I can see a valid argument where raspberry scented jeans aren't a gimmick, just my opinion

                                  If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                                    and where's the thread / comments that analyzed the actual weight post-wash and found them often not about what the tag said? Not sure what brand it was, but it was a 30+ oz denim that when washed ended up being closer to 25oz….?

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                                    • Megatron1505M
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                                      Denim weight, poor construction and raspberry scents are three different issues.

                                      1. I have not seen too many complaints about the quality of N&F.

                                      2. If their 32oz actually weighs 32oz I would be amazed.

                                      3. It's not my thing, but they're not my jeans. I prefer my jeans to smell like stale beer and farts.

                                      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                      • B
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                                        I handled this 32oz denim once (and MaxPower also owns a laptop bag made of it), it's definitely the heaviest denim I ever felt. And if it's not 32oz…ok well than let it be 29oz or whatever. It's still heavier than everything else I came across so far.

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                                        • Max PowerM
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                                          Chiming in as so often when the 32oz question pops up…I do own a sample of said denim (as notebook pouch, made by Benzak). I can't weigh it, but it definitely feels like 32 oz (having touched 24/27 oz Samurai and 25 oz IH denim I dare say that). And Benzak told me the mill claimed it to be 34 oz after washing. I trust him on that. But that's just a number...it seems unwearable and totally over the top, stiff as hell in any case. But the quality is great - just speaking for the denim of course.

                                          Edit: Damn you, b_f, always one step ahead.

                                          @elclintor:

                                          > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                                          • B
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                                            N&F might do another run of these 32oz jeans…maybe some crazy mind is willing to pick them up... not me.
                                            at some point weight is really just a gimmick (as is uber-slubby, colored weft, etc.). But some gimmicks are more accepted than others and also more 'useful'

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