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    7tacos
    Iron Heart Deity
    Joined: 1 May 2010

    I sought a custom build and I had already three custom build forms from Wesco, as I'd been planning to get some for a long time.  I located most careful attentive person I could find (my wife) and, after I bought the correct heavy boot socks I'd need, we measured my feet precisely how Wesco directed.  We took the measurements at night when feet tend to be slightly larger and were very careful not to apply too much pressure to the tape, nor hold it too lose.  We carefully filled everything out on the form.  I had another measurement chart so I thought I'd wait a few days and try it again to compare the results.  Why not?  Be sure right?  These also came out identical.  I sent both forms to Wesco.  Then, for the hell of it (I'm really thorough), since I had one more, I got a completely different person to do the measurements.  I knew this person to be just as careful and attentive as my wife These also came out nearly identical to the first two sets.  I sent them to Wesco for a comparison.  They said there was no appreciable difference from the first two sets of measurements I submitted.  I think they were right about that.

    I rested well during my wait.  I knew I'd done a killer job mapping my foot out with perfect tracing, measurements, etc.  I kicked in an extra hundred bucks for a rush order because I'd wanted these boots for years.

    The boots I got were too narrow in the foot bed and too short.  My toes touched when I was going down hill despite having them laced tight.  Also when laced tight, the eyelets were very close together.  So it seems there's room in the body of the boot but the foot bed's too small.

    I told them the problems I was having and I thought it best if I just flew up there so the could retake my measurements.  I was unable to do so because I was busy.  I regret not doing so now.  I figured if I sent them back they'd tell me they built them to my specs and refuse to go further so I knew I'd need to physically go up there.  I tried taking the insoles out and putting new ones in and trying different weight socks and all that.  Nothing worked and they ended up in the closet.

    Eventually, I sent the back so they could check them and of course they said they'd built them to my specs and there's nothing they can do.  I was bummed pretty hard.  I knew I'd great job measuring and felt confident that we were totally accurate.

    The boots are still at Wesco.  I don't know if I even want them back now.  I was really broken up about it.  Man, I've wanted some Wescos for years and years.  Even now, 2+ years later, I get pretty upset recalling it.  I didn't even want to write this now because it upsets me.  Those would have been the first really nice thing I had made for myself to wear and I put a fuck load of planning and effort into getting it right and it's all for nothing.  The money's one thing (+$600), but I had a real love for build I'd picked out.

    I know Wesco knows their business and that they've done a lot of good things for a lot of hard working people for many years.  I just don't know what I could have done wrong and I may never know.  If I did something wrong somehow, I wish I knew because it would give me some closure and some confidence to get another pair. 
    This is the problem with footwear.  Only the one wearing it can tell how well it fits.  If there's some compatibility issue with my feet and the last I chose, I would think Wesco would advise but maybe not if they didn't catch it.  These are questions I might never know the answer to.

    I'll never get anything made for me again unless I'm face to face with the man making it.

    RIP, Geo
    "Wow I never knew the made jackets that heavy… I need room for underlay and a gun.  Please advise.  That is one heavy jacket."  My Dad, IH-526Jod

    last edited by 11 Oct 2012, 05:30 10 Nov 2012, 03:54 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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      7tacos
      Iron Heart Deity
      Joined: 1 May 2010

      …On a positive note, my jeans fit great.

      RIP, Geo
      "Wow I never knew the made jackets that heavy… I need room for underlay and a gun.  Please advise.  That is one heavy jacket."  My Dad, IH-526Jod

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        injunjack
        見習いボス
        Joined: 19 Feb 2010

        Wow. that's a bummer…But as you said, you must have done something wrong while measuring your feet.

        Before I ordered my Wescos, I measured my feet as per their instructions, and noticed (again) that I'm  a true 9D. So I was confident on buying that size and I knew there is no need to go for full made to measure.

        I feel for ya. And thanks for explaining.

        why don't you just Ebay them, and get another pair, with out made to measurements, but othetwise custom??

        last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 10:52 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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          nicecrackaction
          Joined: 4 Feb 2011

          sounds like a total mistery. i don't think it's humanly possible to make a measurement mistake, since it's that simple. but then wesco has a reputation for top quality. have you considered video conferencing with them via skype?

          "A man of eighty has outlived probably three new schools of painting, two of architecture and poetry and a hundred in dress."
          (Lord Byron)

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            simonc
            Banned
            Joined: 28 Nov 2010

            I have two friends who have used the measure plan, it failed for them too.

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              demonito
              Joined: 27 Apr 2010

              with my experience with wesco . is you always size 1 up from your whites. period. but again thats just me. and fit is perfect spot on

              having the eyelets near each other is a good indication that you got the heel and instep measurement done correctly!

              i think what you did wrong was the foot tracing. you did not trace your foot with a straight pencil the side of the pencil should be the one touching your skin on the perimeter of your foot not the lead.

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                injunjack
                見習いボス
                Joined: 19 Feb 2010

                @demonito:

                i think what you did wrong was the foot tracing. you did not trace your foot with a straight pencil the side of the pencil should be the one touching your skin on the perimeter of your foot not the lead.

                This came to my mind also…

                last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 13:08 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                  demonito
                  Joined: 27 Apr 2010

                  thats where ususally people fuck up with foot measurement.

                  last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 14:28 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    Chris
                    Raw and Unwashed
                    Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                    Except that he did it three times with two different people handling the task.  Odd to get basically the same (wrong) results under those circumstances.

                    Sorry you had such an unhappy experience.:(

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                      demonito
                      Joined: 27 Apr 2010

                      cause im sure he said the same thing to those people on how to draw the outline on his foot

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                        7tacos
                        Iron Heart Deity
                        Joined: 1 May 2010

                        @injunjack:

                        Wow. that's a bummer…But as you said, you must have done something wrong while measuring your feet.

                        Possibly so.  Possibly Wesco fucked up too.

                        @demonito:

                        i think what you did wrong was the foot tracing. you did not trace your foot with a straight pencil the side of the pencil should be the one touching your skin on the perimeter of your foot not the lead.

                        I traced my foot correctly and was very careful.  You keep the pencil upright and they take into consideration the distance between the foot and the center of the pencil, etc…  You keep you knee straight.  I appreciate your input but let’s not assume too much here.  I'm not an idiot and the directions are clear.

                        RIP, Geo
                        "Wow I never knew the made jackets that heavy… I need room for underlay and a gun.  Please advise.  That is one heavy jacket."  My Dad, IH-526Jod

                        last edited by 11 Oct 2012, 17:45 10 Nov 2012, 16:15 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                          7tacos
                          Iron Heart Deity
                          Joined: 1 May 2010

                          Look, we're not going to solve this but I appreciated the effort.  As I said, I'm not sure what exactly happened but I was asked what happened and I explained.  I did exactly as I was directed, three times.  I did not botch the tracing.

                          I'm also not blaming Wesco either.  Boot building is an imprecise endeavor.  I may have just got unlucky, we all do sometimes.  I believe my information was dead nuts on.  I took the matter seriously and was meticulous.

                          I would not discourage people from getting Wescos.  I would recommend people go there in person to get a fitting.  If you get a good fit off the shelve, count yourself a lucky person.

                          RIP, Geo
                          "Wow I never knew the made jackets that heavy… I need room for underlay and a gun.  Please advise.  That is one heavy jacket."  My Dad, IH-526Jod

                          last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 16:24 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • GilesG
                            Giles
                            IHUK Crew
                            Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                            I'll put myself through the wringer soon.  Let's see how they deal with 8 toes…..

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              7tacos
                              Iron Heart Deity
                              Joined: 1 May 2010

                              @injunjack:

                              I feel for ya. And thanks for explaining.

                              why don't you just Ebay them, and get another pair, with out made to measurements, but othetwise custom??

                              Thanks man.  Yeah, that's what I should do is ebay them.  The irrational part of me just doesn't want to see the boots again.
                              I'd still love some Wescos but the wound is still fresh and I have a lot to do.  Of course, I'd have to go in person to Oregon to do it and this is time and energy and expense.  Just not up to a new mission like that right now.

                              RIP, Geo
                              "Wow I never knew the made jackets that heavy… I need room for underlay and a gun.  Please advise.  That is one heavy jacket."  My Dad, IH-526Jod

                              last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 16:34 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                7tacos
                                Iron Heart Deity
                                Joined: 1 May 2010

                                @Giles:

                                I'll put myself through the wringer soon.  Let's see how they deal with 8 toes…..

                                Good luck G.  I have an entire file of Wesco from Japan.  Probably like 60 or so images.  Just phenomenal stuff being built.  I wish I had a pair that worked.

                                RIP, Geo
                                "Wow I never knew the made jackets that heavy… I need room for underlay and a gun.  Please advise.  That is one heavy jacket."  My Dad, IH-526Jod

                                last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 16:38 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  7tacos
                                  Iron Heart Deity
                                  Joined: 1 May 2010

                                  @demonito:

                                  having the eyelets near each other is a good indication that you got the heel and instep measurement done correctly!

                                  pencil the side of the pencil should be the one touching your skin on the perimeter of your foot not the lead.

                                  You're supposed to wear socks BTW.  Boot socks…No pencil on skin.  Also, the eyelets  (opposing eyelets) on my build were very close when laced securely.

                                  RIP, Geo
                                  "Wow I never knew the made jackets that heavy… I need room for underlay and a gun.  Please advise.  That is one heavy jacket."  My Dad, IH-526Jod

                                  last edited by 10 Nov 2012, 16:48 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    demonito
                                    Joined: 27 Apr 2010

                                    even when i traced my pair i wasnt wearing any socks! and it was perfect. anyways maybe some people have weird feet.

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                                      demonito
                                      Joined: 27 Apr 2010

                                      these


                                      on to

                                      these

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                                      • madmondayM
                                        madmonday
                                        Raw and Unwashed
                                        Joined: 13 Oct 2009

                                        should be an intersting make-up.

                                        will hold my opinon until they are out in the wild . . . will be an intersting make-up, to say the least

                                        head high, middle finger higher

                                        last edited by 20 Nov 2012, 16:40 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • GraemeG
                                          Graeme
                                          啓蒙家
                                          Joined: 30 Mar 2012

                                          I really like the ripple sole too. Apparently it was developed for paratroopers back in the fifties to prevent injuries, so it's a rugged and manly option, and not something developed for fashionistas. 😃

                                          last edited by 20 Nov 2012, 19:14 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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