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      I'll speak for the snaps….You are looking at a brand that specializes in heavy, raw fabric, not office-wear (but the 36 and 58 should suit those purposes).  These fabrics oftentimes take months to break in properly, and without the snaps on shirts like the 08 and ihd-01 for example, you would have a hell of a time keeping them buttoned.  In several cases you can find on the forum, either the buttons came loose or the buttonhole itself had problems

      I take the opposite view.  I do not buy these shirts without snaps.  They are better looking, more functional, stronger, and longer lasting.  Snaps are now on nike golf shirts too---so snaps are not only for westerns.

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      • Megatron1505M
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        Also, taking Adams point about keeping the shirt buttoned, you always have to keep in mind that H makes clothing primarily with bikers in mind, hence "Iron Heart - Motorcycle Specialities".

        Snaps are a little more practical for some of the shirts, and (bottom line) simply more popular I would bet.

        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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        • SeulS
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          There are tons of IH and TW shirts without snaps.

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          • Dirty DenimD
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            I would say H adds snaps on the shirts to give us a break after trying to button our jeans…it's called sympathy.  On a serious note buttons would not last period on some of the heavy fabrics H uses.  I personally think the answer u were seeking was common sense.  Kinda like why wheels on a car are round.

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            • SeulS
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              Heavy shirt vs. buttons: IHSH-68… Works...  🙂

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                Thanks for all your answers gents. Having not owned any of the heavy shirts, I'd not understood it was based/rooted in utility/wear/tear that buttons wouldn't be able to handle.

                Guess it leaves the question of why western? Not sure how it folds into the motorcycle image, 2 very different time periods on mostly different sides of the law.

                @Seul, yup, wearing one as I speak, and speaking of which, inbound PM for TWSH-04  😉

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                • SeulS
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                  Aaah good lad…  😉

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                  • ChrisC
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                    I think the choice of westerns is simply that a) Haraki likes them and b) they sell well.  I'm not sure that there is any deeper thought process to it than that.

                    We should also remember that while Iron Heart has its basis in motorcycle gear, it isn't strictly a biker brand.  Again, Haraki makes what he likes.  Of course, I could be wrong about all of that, after all, I have no greater insight into Iron Heart than anyone else here.

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                    • GilesG
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                      H's preference is for snaps.  He likes to be able undo and do up easily when wearing gloves.  But he does take a lot of input from me.  Last time I was in Hachioji he showed me new shirting fabrics, discussion went exactly like this:

                      G: Western or work?
                      H: You choose
                      G: Buttons or snaps?
                      H: You choose

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • Megatron1505M
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                        The insight into your working relationship is quite beautiful in its simplicity G  😉

                        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                          What are interesting ways that you guys have used up denim scraps?  I have about 4 inches of 301s denim that has been hemmed off and I don't want it to go to waste.

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                          • ChrisC
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                            I suppose that leads to a follow up question, Giles.  Do you have a preference on the western/workshirt and buttons/snaps debate?

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                            • GilesG
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                              Personally, I prefer westerns and snaps.  But I try not to let that cloud my judgement when speccing and/or stocking…

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • ChrisC
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                                Fair enough.  Does one style sell better than the other?  Or is it more dependent on the fabric?

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                                  @pbdeng:

                                  What are interesting ways that you guys have used up denim scraps?

                                  I'm using the scraps as patches for the holes that are forming in the crotch.

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                                  • GilesG
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                                    @Chris:

                                    Fair enough.  Does one style sell better than the other?  Or is it more dependent on the fabric?

                                    Have not done a scientific study, but i would says evens….The Western works on some body types, the Work on others.....

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    • DougNgD
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                                      Yeah, I find that Western seems to work better for me. I've never really compared measurements, but it just works

                                      I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                                        Very interesting. I was sure/expecting there was a conscious intent to evoke the US styled jingoism that cowboys and indians is known for bring about. @G, I wonder if you love for Western clothing comes from a childhood of watching westerns?

                                        Thanks for being such an open and friendly bunch. I was expecting slightly aggressive replies, due to the nature of questioning direct aspects of the brand.  Nothing like it in the world, #respect.

                                        @Megatron1505:

                                        The insight into your working relationship is quite beautiful in its simplicity G  😉

                                        I agree, it's really amazing how something that could be so complicated is stripped to it's most pure form.

                                        What I've learnt is that I'm going to have to try these snaps out, thank you :).

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                                        • scroogenS
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                                          I really don't find anything particularly western (cowboy theme) about IH. Maybe more of a 30s-70s workwear aesthetic if anything.  For the most part IH is just regular clothing made extremely well with ultra high quality fabric. Sure there are some peices that may look kinda vintagey, but I can wear all IH and most people won't even know that I have nice shit on, which is what I love about IH. And I don't ever feel like I just walked out of a cowboy movie.

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                                          • joesaintjohnJ
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                                            Unpacking winter wardrobe and my wife laughs every time I put this jacket on. Is it really that bad?

                                            Vintage Pendleton Coat

                                            Fat dudes need good clothes too.

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