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    I'll speak for the snaps….You are looking at a brand that specializes in heavy, raw fabric, not office-wear (but the 36 and 58 should suit those purposes).  These fabrics oftentimes take months to break in properly, and without the snaps on shirts like the 08 and ihd-01 for example, you would have a hell of a time keeping them buttoned.  In several cases you can find on the forum, either the buttons came loose or the buttonhole itself had problems

    I take the opposite view.  I do not buy these shirts without snaps.  They are better looking, more functional, stronger, and longer lasting.  Snaps are now on nike golf shirts too---so snaps are not only for westerns.

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      Megatron1505
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      Also, taking Adams point about keeping the shirt buttoned, you always have to keep in mind that H makes clothing primarily with bikers in mind, hence "Iron Heart - Motorcycle Specialities".

      Snaps are a little more practical for some of the shirts, and (bottom line) simply more popular I would bet.

      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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        Seul
        Joined: 24 Nov 2009

        There are tons of IH and TW shirts without snaps.

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          Dirty Denim
          Joined: 6 Apr 2012

          I would say H adds snaps on the shirts to give us a break after trying to button our jeans…it's called sympathy.  On a serious note buttons would not last period on some of the heavy fabrics H uses.  I personally think the answer u were seeking was common sense.  Kinda like why wheels on a car are round.

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            Seul
            Joined: 24 Nov 2009

            Heavy shirt vs. buttons: IHSH-68… Works...  🙂

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              Snowy
              Joined: 15 Jun 2012

              Thanks for all your answers gents. Having not owned any of the heavy shirts, I'd not understood it was based/rooted in utility/wear/tear that buttons wouldn't be able to handle.

              Guess it leaves the question of why western? Not sure how it folds into the motorcycle image, 2 very different time periods on mostly different sides of the law.

              @Seul, yup, wearing one as I speak, and speaking of which, inbound PM for TWSH-04  😉

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                Seul
                Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                Aaah good lad…  😉

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                  Chris
                  Raw and Unwashed
                  Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                  I think the choice of westerns is simply that a) Haraki likes them and b) they sell well.  I'm not sure that there is any deeper thought process to it than that.

                  We should also remember that while Iron Heart has its basis in motorcycle gear, it isn't strictly a biker brand.  Again, Haraki makes what he likes.  Of course, I could be wrong about all of that, after all, I have no greater insight into Iron Heart than anyone else here.

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                    Giles
                    IHUK Crew
                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                    H's preference is for snaps.  He likes to be able undo and do up easily when wearing gloves.  But he does take a lot of input from me.  Last time I was in Hachioji he showed me new shirting fabrics, discussion went exactly like this:

                    G: Western or work?
                    H: You choose
                    G: Buttons or snaps?
                    H: You choose

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      Megatron1505
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                      The insight into your working relationship is quite beautiful in its simplicity G  😉

                      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                        pbdeng
                        Joined: 6 Oct 2012

                        What are interesting ways that you guys have used up denim scraps?  I have about 4 inches of 301s denim that has been hemmed off and I don't want it to go to waste.

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                          Chris
                          Raw and Unwashed
                          Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                          I suppose that leads to a follow up question, Giles.  Do you have a preference on the western/workshirt and buttons/snaps debate?

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                            Giles
                            IHUK Crew
                            Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                            Personally, I prefer westerns and snaps.  But I try not to let that cloud my judgement when speccing and/or stocking…

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              Chris
                              Raw and Unwashed
                              Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                              Fair enough.  Does one style sell better than the other?  Or is it more dependent on the fabric?

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                                @pbdeng:

                                What are interesting ways that you guys have used up denim scraps?

                                I'm using the scraps as patches for the holes that are forming in the crotch.

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                                  Giles
                                  IHUK Crew
                                  Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                  @Chris:

                                  Fair enough.  Does one style sell better than the other?  Or is it more dependent on the fabric?

                                  Have not done a scientific study, but i would says evens….The Western works on some body types, the Work on others.....

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    DougNg
                                    Joined: 24 Sept 2009

                                    Yeah, I find that Western seems to work better for me. I've never really compared measurements, but it just works

                                    I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                                      Snowy
                                      Joined: 15 Jun 2012

                                      Very interesting. I was sure/expecting there was a conscious intent to evoke the US styled jingoism that cowboys and indians is known for bring about. @G, I wonder if you love for Western clothing comes from a childhood of watching westerns?

                                      Thanks for being such an open and friendly bunch. I was expecting slightly aggressive replies, due to the nature of questioning direct aspects of the brand.  Nothing like it in the world, #respect.

                                      @Megatron1505:

                                      The insight into your working relationship is quite beautiful in its simplicity G  😉

                                      I agree, it's really amazing how something that could be so complicated is stripped to it's most pure form.

                                      What I've learnt is that I'm going to have to try these snaps out, thank you :).

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                                        scroogen
                                        Joined: 30 Nov 2011

                                        I really don't find anything particularly western (cowboy theme) about IH. Maybe more of a 30s-70s workwear aesthetic if anything.  For the most part IH is just regular clothing made extremely well with ultra high quality fabric. Sure there are some peices that may look kinda vintagey, but I can wear all IH and most people won't even know that I have nice shit on, which is what I love about IH. And I don't ever feel like I just walked out of a cowboy movie.

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                                          joesaintjohn
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                                          Joined: 9 Aug 2012

                                          Unpacking winter wardrobe and my wife laughs every time I put this jacket on. Is it really that bad?

                                          Vintage Pendleton Coat

                                          Fat dudes need good clothes too.

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