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    • elclintorE
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      My best friend owns this model, and his are fading very fast.

      Geo

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        Many thanks. Best regards.

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          Snowy
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          So I've been thinking about this for the past few months. I've kept an eye out for the answer, haven't seen, so asking here.

          Question(s)

          1. Why the western theme/aesthetic? What's it talking to about? I understand that westerns represent a simpler time of good/bad, and USA was The Good. IH's not a repro company, as I have read, and the clothing is very forward, yet, frequently in a Western style.

          1.1 Snaps. Even when it's not a western cut, frequently the clothing has Snaps. Why? What's the source of snapping everything. The shirts are beautiful and very vercitile, until the Snaps are added, and then they're thrown back to being hat-tips to Western clothing. In terms of wearability, Snaps are a no-go in the office. The cut, and clothing, would work perfectly, just without the snaps.

          So I guess I've saved 1000's due to western cuts and snaps. I LOVE the attention to detail of ALL IH, Love the clothing, the cuts, the fits, even the ethos I'm aware of.  I don't understand why western and then why snaps on non-western clothing.

          Appreciate your times in answering.

          Kindly Thanks.

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          • ?
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            I'll speak for the snaps….You are looking at a brand that specializes in heavy, raw fabric, not office-wear (but the 36 and 58 should suit those purposes).  These fabrics oftentimes take months to break in properly, and without the snaps on shirts like the 08 and ihd-01 for example, you would have a hell of a time keeping them buttoned.  In several cases you can find on the forum, either the buttons came loose or the buttonhole itself had problems

            I take the opposite view.  I do not buy these shirts without snaps.  They are better looking, more functional, stronger, and longer lasting.  Snaps are now on nike golf shirts too---so snaps are not only for westerns.

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            • Megatron1505M
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              Also, taking Adams point about keeping the shirt buttoned, you always have to keep in mind that H makes clothing primarily with bikers in mind, hence "Iron Heart - Motorcycle Specialities".

              Snaps are a little more practical for some of the shirts, and (bottom line) simply more popular I would bet.

              Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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              • SeulS
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                There are tons of IH and TW shirts without snaps.

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                • Dirty DenimD
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                  I would say H adds snaps on the shirts to give us a break after trying to button our jeans…it's called sympathy.  On a serious note buttons would not last period on some of the heavy fabrics H uses.  I personally think the answer u were seeking was common sense.  Kinda like why wheels on a car are round.

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                  • SeulS
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                    Heavy shirt vs. buttons: IHSH-68… Works...  🙂

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                      Thanks for all your answers gents. Having not owned any of the heavy shirts, I'd not understood it was based/rooted in utility/wear/tear that buttons wouldn't be able to handle.

                      Guess it leaves the question of why western? Not sure how it folds into the motorcycle image, 2 very different time periods on mostly different sides of the law.

                      @Seul, yup, wearing one as I speak, and speaking of which, inbound PM for TWSH-04  😉

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                      • SeulS
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                        Aaah good lad…  😉

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                        • ChrisC
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                          I think the choice of westerns is simply that a) Haraki likes them and b) they sell well.  I'm not sure that there is any deeper thought process to it than that.

                          We should also remember that while Iron Heart has its basis in motorcycle gear, it isn't strictly a biker brand.  Again, Haraki makes what he likes.  Of course, I could be wrong about all of that, after all, I have no greater insight into Iron Heart than anyone else here.

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                          • GilesG
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                            H's preference is for snaps.  He likes to be able undo and do up easily when wearing gloves.  But he does take a lot of input from me.  Last time I was in Hachioji he showed me new shirting fabrics, discussion went exactly like this:

                            G: Western or work?
                            H: You choose
                            G: Buttons or snaps?
                            H: You choose

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • Megatron1505M
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                              The insight into your working relationship is quite beautiful in its simplicity G  😉

                              Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                What are interesting ways that you guys have used up denim scraps?  I have about 4 inches of 301s denim that has been hemmed off and I don't want it to go to waste.

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                                • ChrisC
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                                  I suppose that leads to a follow up question, Giles.  Do you have a preference on the western/workshirt and buttons/snaps debate?

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                                  • GilesG
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                                    Personally, I prefer westerns and snaps.  But I try not to let that cloud my judgement when speccing and/or stocking…

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    • ChrisC
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                                      Fair enough.  Does one style sell better than the other?  Or is it more dependent on the fabric?

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                                        @pbdeng:

                                        What are interesting ways that you guys have used up denim scraps?

                                        I'm using the scraps as patches for the holes that are forming in the crotch.

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                                        • GilesG
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                                          @Chris:

                                          Fair enough.  Does one style sell better than the other?  Or is it more dependent on the fabric?

                                          Have not done a scientific study, but i would says evens….The Western works on some body types, the Work on others.....

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          • DougNgD
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                                            Yeah, I find that Western seems to work better for me. I've never really compared measurements, but it just works

                                            I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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