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    • ChrisC
      Chris
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      I used to participate in a few fora dedicated to cowboy boots and bootmaking; the discussion of multiple rows of welt stitching came up a few times and I remember the topic only in general terms, really.  I can't point you to specific posts or authoritative articles on the subject, but I'll dig around and see if I can find some sources for my previous statement.

      I don't have any boots with double stitched welts, so all my knowledge is theoretical.  If you have different experiences, I'd love to hear about it.  I could certainly be wrong about this, since I'm often wrong about a great many things.

      EDIT: The Custom Cowboy Boots & Shoes Forum had a discussion about double stitched welts a couple of years ago.  It devolved, (like a lot of discussions there did) but it does have some useful information.  The Crispin Colloquy is run by D.W. Frommer and also has lots of detailed info about the art and craft of shoe and boot making, but it's a massive hassle to search topics there.  If you dig around, you may find something useful.  Frommer (DWFII) is also an active member over at StyleForum, btw.

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      • astrogojiA
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        unharmed,

        I don't know enough about the swing last to make any learned comment on it…but pretty much configured this very same shoe right down to the size  😶

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        • urbanwoodsmanU
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          Does anyone know the difference between these?

          Baker's Oxford
          Offer Natural Chromexcel and you can do multi-tone leathers. More sole options. Also, looks like a double stitch down midsole. Looks like they might be made by Nick's boots.
          http://www.bakershoe.com/shop-by-brand.cfm/brand/bakers-boots/product/bakers-oxford/

          and

          Baker's Oxford by White's
          More leather options
          http://www.bakershoe.com/shop-by-brand.cfm/brand/whites-boots/product/bakers-oxford-by-whites-boots/

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          • U
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            @astrogoji:

            unharmed,

            I don't know enough about the swing last to make any learned comment on it…but pretty much configured this very same shoe right down to the size  😶

            Good to meet another man of taste (and large feet 🙂 )

            To be honest, it was pictures of ronaldish's pair from this thread that settled me finally on leather choices. Precisely the colour/texture I wanted.

            I went with the swing last as it apparently makes for a slightly roomier toe box I have quite wide feet with a very high arch so that area of shoes is always a difficult fitting point for me.

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            • catchgeoC
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              Can anyone explain the difference between the different brands of Whites Boots.?

              looking to grab a pair but don't get the difference

              EX. Whites, Hathorn Hi-line, Hathron Boots….. etc

              Thanks

              i'm a little bit shy, a bit strange, and a little bit manic

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              • riffblaster generalR
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                i believe hathorn can't be resoled/repaired?

                PUT DOWN THAT STARBUCKS, PICK UP THAT GNARBUCKS!!

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                • urbanwoodsmanU
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                  @riffblaster:

                  i believe hathorn can't be resoled/repaired?

                  That's not really true.

                  I found this description on another forum and added some info, which I believe is fairly accurate. Correct me if I'm wrong.

                  Whites, Hathorn Hi-Line and Hathorn are all hand made by Whites in Spokane. Within these, the regular Whites materials (leather, midsoles, soles…) are the most handled/built/finished by hand by the folks at Whites. Also, the leather and other materials are of the highest quality in the Whites, then Hathorn Hi-Line, then Hathorn, then Hathorn Explorer... hence the price differences.

                  The Hathorn Hi-Line & Hathorn are more of a kit (materials produced elsewhere) and then built by hand by the Whites folks. These 3 lines are rebuildable by Whites.

                  The cheapest line is the Hathorn Explorer line which is the least handled/built by the same Whites folks & cannot be rebuilt by Whites(not sure about this). Some of these are also machine lasted.

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                  • Mild7M
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                    ^ that's really interesting info Urb, thanks for sharing.
                    Makes my planned 1st purchase for Whites quite a bit easier.

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                    • catchgeoC
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                      Thanks urbanwoodsman, really cleared things up.

                      i'm a little bit shy, a bit strange, and a little bit manic

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                      • supersalamiS
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                        hey guys, from experience, how long do you think it actually takes for these boots to be made? it's been 2 weeks and it still says it's pending..

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                        • Megatron1505M
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                          6 to 10 weeks, depending on when you order. Their current lead time should be on either the Whites or Bakers Facebook page.

                          Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                          • SpaceGnomeS
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                            @supersalami:

                            hey guys, from experience, how long do you think it actually takes for these boots to be made? it's been 2 weeks and it still says it's pending..

                            its going to say that for a long time.  I had the same "issue".

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                            • supersalamiS
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                              so i guess it's normal…? it won't change til it's ready to get shipped?

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                              • S
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                                I just placed an order for the Engineer boots through Bakers and they estimated the wait at 8-10 weeks right now.  It's well worth it.

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                                • SpaceGnomeS
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                                  @supersalami:

                                  so i guess it's normal…? it won't change til it's ready to get shipped?

                                  pretty much.  plan on 8 weeks.  at week 7.5, send off an e-mail to Kyle and see if he can get you an update.  Getting teh UPS shipping e-mail is one of the best e-mails after such a wait.

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                                  • LuciferL
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                                    I put in an order in the start of september, halfway trough  😘

                                    Seize the day and don't you cry.

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                                    • SpaceGnomeS
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                                      the first 4 weeks are the hardest.  the last 4 fly by.  In my experience at least.

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                                      • supersalamiS
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                                        well it has already been 3 weeks… doesn't seem that long. but these for sure, finish by the 10th right? and I could get an update about the 7th to 8th month? and btw.. do you guys know how long they take for international shipping?

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                                        • Megatron1505M
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                                          I got mine in the UK about 5 days after they shipped.

                                          Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                          • Finn666F
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                                            @Megatron1505:

                                            I got mine in the UK about 5 days after they shipped.

                                            how much was the shipping mate?…

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