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    zwer
    Raw and Unwashed
    Joined: 11 Apr 2012

    My thoughts exactly. Is the logical conclusion sports cars?

    Supposedly they're working on a 'cage' system that minimizes the amount that the driver's view is blocked. I reckon the other big challenge is how do you get the driver out in event of a rollover/fire?

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      CLJ
      Raw and Unwashed
      Joined: 26 Feb 2012

      @zwer:

      My thoughts exactly. Is the logical conclusion sports cars?

      Supposedly they're working on a 'cage' system that minimizes the amount that the driver's view is blocked. I reckon the other big challenge is how do you get the driver out in event of a rollover/fire?

      Asked and answered the big question right there. A rolled over car with a closed cockpit thats bursting into flames. Thats the nightmare situation trying to be avoided.

      I don't believe a close cockpit and closed wheel arches are able to go away and the sport still remain 'Formula 1'. I think a higher shelf around the drivers head but still remaining open would be a 'best possible' solution.

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        zwer
        Raw and Unwashed
        Joined: 11 Apr 2012

        IndyCar is running a rear bumper system on their new car and it's not terrible looking. Preventing cars from launching off of the rear wheels is more important than closing in the cockpit in my mind.

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          Giles
          IHUK Crew
          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

          Call me head in the sand if you like.  But without some risk, they may as well be playing tiddlywinks, and I would contend that a lot of us watch it to see the big prangs.  And the last death in F1 was 1994 and a cage would not have helped….

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            Chris
            Raw and Unwashed
            Joined: 28 Jun 2010

            Senna got impaled on his steering column, didn't he?  Safety has gotten dramatically better since that tragedy.

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              zwer
              Raw and Unwashed
              Joined: 11 Apr 2012

              Actually, a cage might have helped - Senna's helmet was pierced by a right front suspension piece that came back up into the cockpit.

              But, I'm with you, Giles. I haven't got used to the closed cockpits they have now, let alone the coming changes. Formula One is supposed to be dangerous. While I don't miss gravel traps, per se, I am a bit tired of drivers being able to make monumental mistakes and get away with it.

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                Mild7
                Joined: 3 May 2012

                I agree with Giles here.. F1 is the only 4 wheel motorsport I watch religiously, and it the open air design were to go away, then i probably will too.

                Rear bumper is interesting.  The reason Grosjean was launched over Alonso was (as far as i can see) due to the fact that Lewis was attached to the rear of grosjean.  Lewis had no steering but his rear wheels still driving the Lotus up and over the Ferrari.  Perhaps if Lewis had hit a Lotus bumper the whole thing would have been a lot less severe?  Who knows.

                Having said all that, death is extremely rare in the highest form of motorsport we have.  Not bad if you ask me.

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                  CLJ
                  Raw and Unwashed
                  Joined: 26 Feb 2012

                  @Mild7:

                  Lewis had no steering but his rear wheels still driving the Lotus up and over the Ferrari.  Perhaps if Lewis had hit a Lotus bumper the whole thing would have been a lot less severe?  Who knows

                  Lewis wouldn't have hit the back of the Lotus at all. Grosjean side-swiped the McLaren, which then swung the Lotus in front of the McLaren pushing it over the front of the Ferrari which was banking into the corner.

                  Lane discipline and respect for other drivers is far more important than added safety features. This was caused by human error not mechanical failure. In short: the driver fucked up.

                  I agree with all of you: open wheel and open cockpit define Formula 1.  😘

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                    babyknight
                    啓蒙家
                    Joined: 19 Feb 2011

                    Preview of the 2013 F1 race in NJ, including the US national anthem "played" using an F1 engine at the start…

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                      Mild7
                      Joined: 3 May 2012

                      Good luck in Monza JB.  2 for 2!

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                        Giles
                        IHUK Crew
                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                        Love the little inbuilt jacks, so they can get the car of it's wheels super quick…

                        A few tyres -  14 used over the weekend at USD600 a pop - it all starts to mount up

                        This is all I am allowed to drive

                        Refuelling the manual way - can still dump about 50 litres in 3 secs

                        Ben straps Alex in

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          Giles
                          IHUK Crew
                          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                          The F3 boys in the garage next door

                          IMO - pure sex

                          McLaren

                          Lambo

                          Beamer

                          Subtle rear wing

                          McLaren

                          Ferrari

                          Ferrari 275GTS - we reckon about USD8M worth

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            Megatron1505
                            見習いボス
                            Joined: 10 Jul 2011

                            Wow  ???

                            I know nothing about Motor Sport, but just about any man has a primal reaction to beautiful, loud, fast, classic cars  😘

                            Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                              Mild7
                              Joined: 3 May 2012

                              Yeah nice pics Giles.

                              Silverstone is on my list.. Lucky man.

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                                Giles
                                IHUK Crew
                                Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                I have shite connectivity atm.  I will sort out some text later…

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  Giles
                                  IHUK Crew
                                  Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                  Today I wanted to be the brolly dolly but no need with a saloon car, so I'm auditioning to be the Grid Girl….

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    Mild7
                                    Joined: 3 May 2012

                                    Unsubscribe

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                                      Megatron1505
                                      見習いボス
                                      Joined: 10 Jul 2011

                                      @Mild7:

                                      Unsubscribe

                                      Here, here. My minds eye is scarred enough.

                                      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                        Tripleterror
                                        Joined: 24 Sept 2009

                                        I don't know, his legs ain't too bad, although the dudicious application of a paper bag may be required.

                                        just wear - don´t compare - what matters is that one loves what one is wearing…

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                                          Giles
                                          IHUK Crew
                                          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                          You feckers.  The pic will now be as large as I can make it.  BTW, my legs won't be on display.  GT cars have a tendency to catch fire, so I will not be allowed onto the grid (or even the pit wall) in my shorts when the GT cars are there or racing….

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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