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    • Z
      zwer
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      My thoughts exactly. Is the logical conclusion sports cars?

      Supposedly they're working on a 'cage' system that minimizes the amount that the driver's view is blocked. I reckon the other big challenge is how do you get the driver out in event of a rollover/fire?

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        @zwer:

        My thoughts exactly. Is the logical conclusion sports cars?

        Supposedly they're working on a 'cage' system that minimizes the amount that the driver's view is blocked. I reckon the other big challenge is how do you get the driver out in event of a rollover/fire?

        Asked and answered the big question right there. A rolled over car with a closed cockpit thats bursting into flames. Thats the nightmare situation trying to be avoided.

        I don't believe a close cockpit and closed wheel arches are able to go away and the sport still remain 'Formula 1'. I think a higher shelf around the drivers head but still remaining open would be a 'best possible' solution.

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          zwer
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          IndyCar is running a rear bumper system on their new car and it's not terrible looking. Preventing cars from launching off of the rear wheels is more important than closing in the cockpit in my mind.

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          • GilesG
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            Call me head in the sand if you like.  But without some risk, they may as well be playing tiddlywinks, and I would contend that a lot of us watch it to see the big prangs.  And the last death in F1 was 1994 and a cage would not have helped….

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            • ChrisC
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              Senna got impaled on his steering column, didn't he?  Safety has gotten dramatically better since that tragedy.

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                Actually, a cage might have helped - Senna's helmet was pierced by a right front suspension piece that came back up into the cockpit.

                But, I'm with you, Giles. I haven't got used to the closed cockpits they have now, let alone the coming changes. Formula One is supposed to be dangerous. While I don't miss gravel traps, per se, I am a bit tired of drivers being able to make monumental mistakes and get away with it.

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                • Mild7M
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                  I agree with Giles here.. F1 is the only 4 wheel motorsport I watch religiously, and it the open air design were to go away, then i probably will too.

                  Rear bumper is interesting.  The reason Grosjean was launched over Alonso was (as far as i can see) due to the fact that Lewis was attached to the rear of grosjean.  Lewis had no steering but his rear wheels still driving the Lotus up and over the Ferrari.  Perhaps if Lewis had hit a Lotus bumper the whole thing would have been a lot less severe?  Who knows.

                  Having said all that, death is extremely rare in the highest form of motorsport we have.  Not bad if you ask me.

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                    @Mild7:

                    Lewis had no steering but his rear wheels still driving the Lotus up and over the Ferrari.  Perhaps if Lewis had hit a Lotus bumper the whole thing would have been a lot less severe?  Who knows

                    Lewis wouldn't have hit the back of the Lotus at all. Grosjean side-swiped the McLaren, which then swung the Lotus in front of the McLaren pushing it over the front of the Ferrari which was banking into the corner.

                    Lane discipline and respect for other drivers is far more important than added safety features. This was caused by human error not mechanical failure. In short: the driver fucked up.

                    I agree with all of you: open wheel and open cockpit define Formula 1.  😘

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                    • babyknightB
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                      Preview of the 2013 F1 race in NJ, including the US national anthem "played" using an F1 engine at the start…

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                      • Mild7M
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                        Good luck in Monza JB.  2 for 2!

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                        • GilesG
                          Giles
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                          Love the little inbuilt jacks, so they can get the car of it's wheels super quick…

                          A few tyres -  14 used over the weekend at USD600 a pop - it all starts to mount up

                          This is all I am allowed to drive

                          Refuelling the manual way - can still dump about 50 litres in 3 secs

                          Ben straps Alex in

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • GilesG
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                            The F3 boys in the garage next door

                            IMO - pure sex

                            McLaren

                            Lambo

                            Beamer

                            Subtle rear wing

                            McLaren

                            Ferrari

                            Ferrari 275GTS - we reckon about USD8M worth

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • Megatron1505M
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                              Wow  ???

                              I know nothing about Motor Sport, but just about any man has a primal reaction to beautiful, loud, fast, classic cars  😘

                              Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                              • Mild7M
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                                Yeah nice pics Giles.

                                Silverstone is on my list.. Lucky man.

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                                • GilesG
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                                  I have shite connectivity atm.  I will sort out some text later…

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  • GilesG
                                    Giles
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                                    Today I wanted to be the brolly dolly but no need with a saloon car, so I'm auditioning to be the Grid Girl….

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      • Megatron1505M
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                                        @Mild7:

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                                        Here, here. My minds eye is scarred enough.

                                        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                        • TripleterrorT
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                                          I don't know, his legs ain't too bad, although the dudicious application of a paper bag may be required.

                                          just wear - don´t compare - what matters is that one loves what one is wearing…

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                                          • GilesG
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                                            You feckers.  The pic will now be as large as I can make it.  BTW, my legs won't be on display.  GT cars have a tendency to catch fire, so I will not be allowed onto the grid (or even the pit wall) in my shorts when the GT cars are there or racing….

                                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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