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    • Megatron1505M
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      I think the only problem here is that there isn't really a "White's" fit. Oxfords, SD's and SJ's all fit very differently, which can have quite a bearing on choosing the right size. Same can be said of Red Wings.

      I can tell you what the Oxfords fit like in comparison to Red Wing GT's or Chukkas, I can't tell you what they fit like in comparison to Moc Toe Red Wings.

      Go to Kyle, we may all be (unintentionally) blowing smoke up your ass.

      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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      • SeulS
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        @Megatron1505:

        In my opinion (having worn both) the Whites are half a size bigger than the Red Wings.

        So, also bigger than the RW Chukkas?..

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        • Megatron1505M
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          In my opinion

          **Disclaimer, the opinion of the poster may not reflect reality in any form known by other humans.

          Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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          • MoonshineM
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            Kyle is the man, but White's does offer a sizing "pattern", so why not go with that if you're unsure of your size?  But I guess if you're not having them custom made that would pose a problem…  The saga continues...

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            • madmondayM
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              ^^^

              i think it would help solve the problem cause the folks at White's could look at the template & say okay based on the measurements you sent in you are size ** width **

              at least from the template they sent me it seemed to work like that.  ah, the joys of e-commerce

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              • GilesG
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                Get the Whites catalogue and there is a measuring template thingy in it…..

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                • Megatron1505M
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                  Right, so all this talk of Whites has backed me into a corner and forced me to sell my SD's via eBay, as I require funds to buy a new pair of Whites or Viberg (undecided, by probably Whites). I haven't listed them on the forum, as I know the resole job with the Lug sole was not popular here, although the workmanship was good quality, also they are not what you would call cheap as I need the money.

                  If anyone on the forum is interested in them, I would obviously offer a reduced rate for members.

                  Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                  • SpaceGnomeS
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                    fwiw, Im a 10 in Whites SD last, and I was sized into a size 10 Oxfords by Bakers as well.  I have not received the oxfords yet, but I did have multiple conversations with them.  If any of you guys are in doubt, ask Bakers!  Dont listen to us mooks, each of our fittings could be different.

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                      Red Wings are narrower than most other boots but if anything a bit longer than White's

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                      • KikuchiK
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                        I once worn a size 8.5d red wing 9111s, and I want my oxfords to be nice and snug..
                        😶

                        Live life, Laugh, Love.. ;)

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                        • SpaceGnomeS
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                          @Kikuchi:

                          I once worn a size 8.5d red wing 9111s, and I want my oxfords to be nice and snug..
                          😶

                          well, Bakers told me that if they are too small they can have White's re-last them up a half size no problem…

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                          • LuciferL
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                            Finally coming close to a decision:

                            Alternative a: Semi dress in brown horse hide, cap toe, vibram 700, double midsole, natural edges, curved heel, standard heel height, single celastic sole.. etc.

                            Alternative b: 6" bounty hunter last smoke jumpers in brown smooth, cap toe, vibram 700, double midsole, natural edges, curved heel, standard heel height, single (or no?) celastic sole.

                            Give me 4-5 more days and I'll order 🙂

                            Seize the day and don't you cry.

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                            • ChrisC
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                              Both sound good, but were it my money, it would be alternative A.
                              🙂

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                              • BrownIconB
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                                @Lucifer:

                                Finally coming close to a decision:

                                Alternative a: Semi dress in brown horse hide, cap toe, vibram 700, double midsole, natural edges, curved heel, standard heel height, single celastic sole.. etc.

                                Alternative b: 6" bounty hunter last smoke jumpers in brown smooth, cap toe, vibram 700, double midsole, natural edges, curved heel, standard heel height, single (or no?) celastic sole.

                                Give me 4-5 more days and I'll order 🙂

                                imo,  if you're really dead set on double mid-soles,  Bounty Hunter would be more apropos

                                btw, just to make clear:  Bounty Hunter is on the SD last & they're only called Smoke Jumpers if they're on Vibram Lug 100 soles.

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                                • astrogojiA
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                                  does anyone know what leather this is?

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                                  • SpaceGnomeS
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                                    brown dress most likely

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                                    • SpaceGnomeS
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                                      @Lucifer:

                                      Finally coming close to a decision:

                                      Alternative a: Semi dress in brown horse hide, cap toe, vibram 700, double midsole, natural edges, curved heel, standard heel height, single celastic sole.. etc.

                                      Alternative b: 6" bounty hunter last smoke jumpers in brown smooth, cap toe, vibram 700, double midsole, natural edges, curved heel, standard heel height, single (or no?) celastic sole.

                                      Give me 4-5 more days and I'll order 🙂

                                      if you get the second option, be prepared for a pair of boots that weighs about 4 pounds each.  (ok, slight exaggeration, but they will be pushing at least 3 pounds)

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                                        @astrogoji:

                                        @illumin8em:

                                        does anyone know what leather this is?

                                        brown dress it is

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                                        • LuciferL
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                                          @SpaceGnome:

                                          @Lucifer:

                                          Finally coming close to a decision:

                                          Alternative a: Semi dress in brown horse hide, cap toe, vibram 700, double midsole, natural edges, curved heel, standard heel height, single celastic sole.. etc.

                                          Alternative b: 6" bounty hunter last smoke jumpers in brown smooth, cap toe, vibram 700, double midsole, natural edges, curved heel, standard heel height, single (or no?) celastic sole.

                                          Give me 4-5 more days and I'll order 🙂

                                          if you get the second option, be prepared for a pair of boots that weighs about 4 pounds each.  (ok, slight exaggeration, but they will be pushing at least 3 pounds)

                                          Hmm, how much does the SD weigh then? I did not think that it would be a huge difference?

                                          mo,  if you're really dead set on double mid-soles,  Bounty Hunter would be more apropos

                                          btw, just to make clear:  Bounty Hunter is on the SD last & they're only called Smoke Jumpers if they're on Vibram Lug 100 soles.

                                          I just think that a single mid-sole looks too "thin" in the midsection just in front of the heel. Not sure if you understand what I mean?

                                          Seize the day and don't you cry.

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                                          • SpaceGnomeS
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                                            I have 8' bounty hunters with a composite sole, single midsole, and each boot weights about 2.5 pounds on my cheap scale.  Once they are on, its all good, but putting them on first thing in the morning is kind of a drag to be honest, as I am the most laziest in the mornings and want to just wear slippers all day.

                                            I would think that a double midslole and a full sole (not composite) would add close to a pound of weight, and depending on the leather and lining….it adds up.

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