White's Boots
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So you're both saying that I should get a size 8?
I had a feeling you guys might say that, but now am sure.. Thanks!
I have/had 4 pair of White's and probably 8 or more Red Wings. If someones experience with RW was with a moc toe boot then I guess I could agree the White's semi dress last may feel a half size bigger, but that RW moc toe is a narrow last. I will always buy my same size Red Wing as White's, 10.5D. I do not have a very voluminous foot but I am not a C width. Just my opinion. What Red Wings do you have?
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My Red Wing experience is with GT's and the rough out chukka (forgot the model number). However, it is worth pointing out that there is quite a size/ fit difference between the Whites Semi Dress and the Oxford (I have both) of around half a size.
I would match my Red Wing size for SD's, but go down half a size for Oxfords. Just my personal experience, if you want to be more sure, email Kyle at Bakers.
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I think the only problem here is that there isn't really a "White's" fit. Oxfords, SD's and SJ's all fit very differently, which can have quite a bearing on choosing the right size. Same can be said of Red Wings.
I can tell you what the Oxfords fit like in comparison to Red Wing GT's or Chukkas, I can't tell you what they fit like in comparison to Moc Toe Red Wings.
Go to Kyle, we may all be (unintentionally) blowing smoke up your ass.
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In my opinion (having worn both) the Whites are half a size bigger than the Red Wings.
So, also bigger than the RW Chukkas?..
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In my opinion
**Disclaimer, the opinion of the poster may not reflect reality in any form known by other humans.
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^^^
i think it would help solve the problem cause the folks at White's could look at the template & say okay based on the measurements you sent in you are size ** width **
at least from the template they sent me it seemed to work like that. ah, the joys of e-commerce
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Right, so all this talk of Whites has backed me into a corner and forced me to sell my SD's via eBay, as I require funds to buy a new pair of Whites or Viberg (undecided, by probably Whites). I haven't listed them on the forum, as I know the resole job with the Lug sole was not popular here, although the workmanship was good quality, also they are not what you would call cheap as I need the money.
If anyone on the forum is interested in them, I would obviously offer a reduced rate for members.
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fwiw, Im a 10 in Whites SD last, and I was sized into a size 10 Oxfords by Bakers as well. I have not received the oxfords yet, but I did have multiple conversations with them. If any of you guys are in doubt, ask Bakers! Dont listen to us mooks, each of our fittings could be different.
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Red Wings are narrower than most other boots but if anything a bit longer than White's
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I once worn a size 8.5d red wing 9111s, and I want my oxfords to be nice and snug..
well, Bakers told me that if they are too small they can have White's re-last them up a half size no problem…
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Finally coming close to a decision:
Alternative a: Semi dress in brown horse hide, cap toe, vibram 700, double midsole, natural edges, curved heel, standard heel height, single celastic sole.. etc.
Alternative b: 6" bounty hunter last smoke jumpers in brown smooth, cap toe, vibram 700, double midsole, natural edges, curved heel, standard heel height, single (or no?) celastic sole.
Give me 4-5 more days and I'll order
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Both sound good, but were it my money, it would be alternative A.
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Finally coming close to a decision:
Alternative a: Semi dress in brown horse hide, cap toe, vibram 700, double midsole, natural edges, curved heel, standard heel height, single celastic sole.. etc.
Alternative b: 6" bounty hunter last smoke jumpers in brown smooth, cap toe, vibram 700, double midsole, natural edges, curved heel, standard heel height, single (or no?) celastic sole.
Give me 4-5 more days and I'll order
imo, if you're really dead set on double mid-soles, Bounty Hunter would be more apropos
btw, just to make clear: Bounty Hunter is on the SD last & they're only called Smoke Jumpers if they're on Vibram Lug 100 soles.
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brown dress most likely
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Finally coming close to a decision:
Alternative a: Semi dress in brown horse hide, cap toe, vibram 700, double midsole, natural edges, curved heel, standard heel height, single celastic sole.. etc.
Alternative b: 6" bounty hunter last smoke jumpers in brown smooth, cap toe, vibram 700, double midsole, natural edges, curved heel, standard heel height, single (or no?) celastic sole.
Give me 4-5 more days and I'll order
if you get the second option, be prepared for a pair of boots that weighs about 4 pounds each. (ok, slight exaggeration, but they will be pushing at least 3 pounds)
