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    Lighter-weight denim versus heavy-weight discussion

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      Excellent post from deadendpro. Thanks.

      I only have the heavy IH jeans (634SR and 9634Z) and other 10.5-12oz jeans. So the step down is considerable. When I put the other jeans on it almost feels like wearing a normal cloth pant. But only for a little while. After that it feels like wearing jeans again.

      To me it is clear that the thicker material is much nicer but if the jeans look good and fit well I can very easily do with a lighter weight. I am tempted to try and intermediate weight, say 14-17, to see how I like that. I'm not sure but my estimate is that the Girbaud Pedal Pushers of yore I was wearing were around 14. Those were awesome.

      Till

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        Simon, dead – great reads ! Thank you for sharing. But still, I'm hearing a general vibe...once you try Iron Heart (heavy weight) on, you seem ruined for life. I've heard both Beats and Seul say that their SEXIH07BKs (though a flimsy 19-oz) are the best jeans they've ever owned in their lives. And we've heard Seul remark that his 19-oz Sams feel weak in comparison to his IH. This is very high praise for Iron Heart, considering how many types and brands of jeans have grazed the butts of Seul and Beatle ! Seul, if you like heavy shit -- you're missing out by not getting a pair of SuperBlacks man. You will simply love them ! Get the 9301 slims from SESF or the straight cuts. They are heavy as a motherfucker and yet so fitted and non-bulky looking. SuperBlacks are simply magical, IMHO.

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        • BeatleB
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          lol…long read

          We can do anything

          http://bybeatle.com

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          • SeulS
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            Shubz: I will buy another pair of Iron Heart this year. I want a slim fitting indigo pair, preferably 21 or 23 oz. Overdyed would be completely ballin. So I hope one of the 3 new models will be a heavy, slim fitting indigo pair. I'll pick it up during the summer then (still have that bet going til July 01). I also hope it doesn't have the standard IH backpocket stitching as I thoroughly dislike that but hell I can always have it removed.

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              Seul, whatever you want brotha ! Hope a slim indigo pair is in the upcoming lineup, then.

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              • DougNgD
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                @Beatle:

                nope..19oz all the way…new denim developed for se..I can only think of the 634-sr special edition which is 21 pre - and 23 post soak..

                They're 19oz/sq yard pre soak, and these shrink. Therefore, they would weigh more than 19oz/sq yard post soak

                Checked with Kiya. He said they're approximately 21oz post soak

                I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                • deadendproD
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                  ^ yeah, I always understood denim weight to refer to square yard after laundering. And as the weave tightens when an unsanforized jean is soaked, that is where the unsanforized gains oz's.

                  Currently Wearing:
                  SExSx3s 27-01
                  15.4oz 3sixteen Type 3
                  25oz Samurai Type 1

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                  • SeulS
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                    There we go. 21 oz  😘

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                    • BeatleB
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                      guys - if this were the case I´m sure Kiya would point that out in the description. I am pretty sure they are 19oz pre and post soak..

                      Quote se website

                      Unsanforized 19oz Indigo Selvedge Denim

                      We can do anything

                      http://bybeatle.com

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                      • BeatleB
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                        But they are overdyed - so already soaked…confused..well, maybe one day Kiya drops in and sheds some light...

                        We can do anything

                        http://bybeatle.com

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                        • BeatleB
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                          Question asked*

                          We can do anything

                          http://bybeatle.com

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                          • BeatleB
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                            301s, 21oz, right
                            I thought this was about the SEXIH07 BK…anyways - 19 or 21 post soak - beautiful denim.

                            We can do anything

                            http://bybeatle.com

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                            • SeulS
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                              That's all there is to it indeed, Beats.

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                              • BeatleB
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                                not really , Seul…sanforization changes the weight of the denim as well...(controlled shrinkage) so the 301s which uses 21oz raw denim - should weigh 23 when it hits the shelves. I am seriously confused...

                                We can do anything

                                http://bybeatle.com

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                                • DougNgD
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                                  Like I said before, I got an email from Kiya regarding the question, he says and I quote

                                  "They're about 21oz after soak

                                  k"

                                  I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                                  • BeatleB
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                                    Now I can sleep

                                    We can do anything

                                    http://bybeatle.com

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                                    • ?
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                                      Now, I'm confused. How did 301S come into the discussion ? Those are sanforized. I own a pair. They're 21-oz period, post and pre-soak !

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                                      • GilesG
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                                        I think I am responsible for the confusion - mad day.

                                        301S are sanforised and 21oz
                                        SEXIH07 are 19oz in loom state

                                        G

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        • deadendproD
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                                          BEAUTIFUL!!! CLARIFICATION! hahahahahahaha. no more nightmares about added oz's!

                                          Currently Wearing:
                                          SExSx3s 27-01
                                          15.4oz 3sixteen Type 3
                                          25oz Samurai Type 1

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                                          • BeatleB
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                                            yeah…it´s simple ...Iron Heart denim - tough as nails

                                            We can do anything

                                            http://bybeatle.com

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