Lighter-weight denim versus heavy-weight discussion

[DougNg]

@Beatle:

nope..19oz all the way…new denim developed for se..I can only think of the 634-sr special edition which is 21 pre - and 23 post soak..

They're 19oz/sq yard pre soak, and these shrink. Therefore, they would weigh more than 19oz/sq yard post soak

Checked with Kiya. He said they're approximately 21oz post soak

[deadendpro]

^ yeah, I always understood denim weight to refer to square yard after laundering. And as the weave tightens when an unsanforized jean is soaked, that is where the unsanforized gains oz's.

[Seul]

There we go. 21 oz 

[Beatle]

guys - if this were the case I´m sure Kiya would point that out in the description. I am pretty sure they are 19oz pre and post soak..

Quote se website

Unsanforized 19oz Indigo Selvedge Denim

[Beatle]

But they are overdyed - so already soaked…confused..well, maybe one day Kiya drops in and sheds some light...

[Beatle]

Question asked*

[Beatle]

301s, 21oz, right
I thought this was about the SEXIH07 BK…anyways - 19 or 21 post soak - beautiful denim.

[Seul]

That's all there is to it indeed, Beats.

[Beatle]

not really , Seul…sanforization changes the weight of the denim as well...(controlled shrinkage) so the 301s which uses 21oz raw denim - should weigh 23 when it hits the shelves. I am seriously confused...

[DougNg]

Like I said before, I got an email from Kiya regarding the question, he says and I quote

"They're about 21oz after soak

k"

[Beatle]

Now I can sleep

[Guest]

Now, I'm confused. How did 301S come into the discussion ? Those are sanforized. I own a pair. They're 21-oz period, post and pre-soak !

[Giles]

I think I am responsible for the confusion - mad day.

301S are sanforised and 21oz
SEXIH07 are 19oz in loom state

G

[deadendpro]

BEAUTIFUL!!! CLARIFICATION! hahahahahahaha. no more nightmares about added oz's!

[Beatle]

yeah…it´s simple ...Iron Heart denim - tough as nails

[deadendpro]

no… Nails, tough as iron heart denim. 

[Guest]

@simon626:

So….if you soak a pair of 21oz IH301S, will they take on anymore weight?

Nope. Cuz 301S and 634S are sanforized. They stay 21oz.

[Heavy Duty]

Given the choice i'd go for heavy weight over a light(er) weight denim, but much like Simon comfort is king

[DougNg]

To each their own, but I do a lot of travelling for work, and I went from a snowy environment to a warmer environment to a snowy environment to a sub tropical environment in under a month. If I had to choose something to cover all my bases, IH would not be it.

My pick? 14.5oz

[LandoCal126 0]

I saw this and thought it was a simple way of explaining denim weight.

@mlyngard:

It's a pretty simple equation:

Denim weight is stated in ounces-per-square-yard

tighter-weave denim shrinks less.  Looser weave shrinks more.  The more the shrink, the heaver weight per-yard after soak (the denim contracts).

A good example is SDA natural indigo vs. regular.  The natural indigo version is 14oz raw, the regular is 15oz.  The natural shrinks 2" in the waist, the regular 1".  So post-soak, both should be roughly the same weight.

Like Salaami said, a thicker feeling, slubbier denim won't always weigh more either, since cotton thread can feel thicker because of slubbiness and yarn 'loft' but weigh less.