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    IH-634S - 21oz Selvedge Denim Straight Cut Jeans - Indigo

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    • DougNgD
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      Not sure how the cut compares, but you're going to find different opinions on whether or not you should soak first. Technically, it's sanforized, so you don't need to soak to get rid of shrinkage. Some people feel that it's healthier for the denim to soak first. I'm in the latter group, if for nothing else, it gets rid of some of the indigo transfer from loose indigo

      I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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      • crankyfartC
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        @DougNg:

        Not sure how the cut compares, but you're going to find different opinions on whether or not you should soak first. Technically, it's sanforized, so you don't need to soak to get rid of shrinkage. Some people feel that it's healthier for the denim to soak first. I'm in the latter group, if for nothing else, it gets rid of some of the indigo transfer from loose indigo

        you mean, you still choose to soak it to prevent indigo transfer? i always hear people saying raw denim should not be washed with at least 6 months usage else the indigo would bleed when wash. so many different theory to make us confused. URGH!!!

        make peace, not war. <3

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        • DougNgD
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          Not washing your jeans for six months was something Nudie came up with years ago. Basically, not washing your  jeans for that long will promote high contrast fades (because all of the indigo, even the indigo that will transfer easily, is mostly there, except for the high abrasion areas) and set combs

          Ultimately, your jeans are a reflection of you. I'm not particularly fussy with my jeans, and my jeans reflect that.

          Worrying about how often I wash or don't wash my jeans, the placement of combs, wearing them while still damp would drive me nuts

          I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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          • og kushO
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            @volcano:

            at least you got it back. a mate of mine had his pbj damaged with shit load of paint. the guy just apologized. that's all. nothing done.

            Now that sucks big time. Hopefully your mate had some good karma come his way after that!!!

            nooblet333 - I've been unable to sit since it happened!  😠 lol

            Stop arresting paitents

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            • kit99barK
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              no need to soak, just wear them.

              RAWWAR 2012!

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              • ChrisC
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                Volcano, I'm with Doug on this- soaking jeans before your first wear shouldn't affect the size any, but it will get rid of a little excess loose indigo, plus any residual starch and/or sizing that may be left over from the manufacturing process.

                As for when you wash them, whether you wear them damp, etc., etc., etc., well, don't stress about it too much.  Whatever you do is what makes them uniquely yours.

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                • injunjackI
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                  Volcano, hope you don't mind me asking : how old are you?

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                  • crankyfartC
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                    @injunjack:

                    Volcano, hope you don't mind me asking : how old are you?

                    me? 22. My apology if I ask too many questions cos I'm rather new to these jeans. I've got many pairs of jeans that were bought wrongly thus I'm very paranoid when it comes to online purchases of clothes.

                    as for the washing part, cos I'm confused as to why the 666S requires soaking and the 634S doesn't. then I've heard people saying wash after 6 months for raw denim, dry clean the raw denim, sun the denim but don't wash and etc. thats why I'm confused as to how we should care for these IH jeans.

                    make peace, not war. <3

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                    • GilesG
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                      Volcano.

                      666s are raw and unsanforised, the 634S are sanforised, hence a different approach is required.  Read here:

                      http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2657.0

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • crankyfartC
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                        @Giles:

                        Volcano.

                        666s are raw and unsanforised, the 634S are sanforised, hence a different approach is required.  Read here:

                        http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2657.0

                        thanks alot. will read it.

                        make peace, not war. <3

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                        • SeulS
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                          IH-666S = raw, unwashed. Means YOU need to wash it prior to wearing.
                          IH-634S = pre-washed. Means you can start wearing them immediately.

                          Too slow  😠

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                          • injunjackI
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                            Well, IF I had started young, you could easily be my son… So, calm down son.....Read and study, that way you'll learn.

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                            • DougNgD
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                              Sanforized vs unsanforized doesn't necessarily mean washed vs unwashed

                              It means that sanforized is pre-shrunk, and unsanforized will still shrink when wet

                              Washed vs raw is another one to be aware of. Raw denim tends to bleed onto adjacent fabrics. Pre washed jeans are oftentimes referred to as "one wash" or OW

                              The 634S is raw, unwashed and sanforized

                              There are other things to think about: sizing down can lead to blown seams and crotches. Some feel that not washing for long periods of time will also cause premature wear in your jeans.

                              Depends on what you want. Not washing and sizing down will cause the highest contrast fades. A happy medium will lead to a long life with your jeans and a fading you like. You're going to have to figure that out for yourself according to how you wear your jeans, where you wear your jeans, where you live, etc. All these things affect fading properties and longetivity of your denim

                              I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                              • DougNgD
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                                More info on sanforized:

                                http://www.sanforized.biz/e_what.htm

                                I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                                • FurattoHeddoF
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                                  @Giles:

                                  The thing with the 634S is that is is in constant production.  With all the other jeans, they are one-offs or sporadic.  So introducing the chage in the 634S is more complicated than with the other styles.  Hey, I know it's not rocket science, but hey.  Anyway it WILL get done as Haraki considers the tucked into the waist band belt loop to be a good thing and an Iron Heart signature…G

                                  A very old post I know, but happened to this idea of adding sewn in belt loops to the 634S?

                                  "Don't ever be sorry"

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                                  • crankyfartC
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                                    @injunjack:

                                    Well, IF I had started young, you could easily be my son… So, calm down son.....Read and study, that way you'll learn.

                                    I'm cool. ain't pissed off with you or whatever. just didn't like the way the other guy wrote in that thread. I'm learning and I thank everyone here who's helping and teaching. I sincerely appreciate it. 🙂

                                    make peace, not war. <3

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                                    • crankyfartC
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                                      @Seul:

                                      IH-666S = raw, unwashed. Means YOU need to wash it prior to wearing.
                                      IH-634S = pre-washed. Means you can start wearing them immediately.

                                      Too slow  😠

                                      too slow? anyway thanks a lot mate. appreciate your help. 🙂

                                      make peace, not war. <3

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                                      • crankyfartC
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                                        @DougNg:

                                        Sanforized vs unsanforized doesn't necessarily mean washed vs unwashed

                                        It means that sanforized is pre-shrunk, and unsanforized will still shrink when wet

                                        Washed vs raw is another one to be aware of. Raw denim tends to bleed onto adjacent fabrics. Pre washed jeans are oftentimes referred to as "one wash" or OW

                                        The 634S is raw, unwashed and sanforized

                                        There are other things to think about: sizing down can lead to blown seams and crotches. Some feel that not washing for long periods of time will also cause premature wear in your jeans.

                                        Depends on what you want. Not washing and sizing down will cause the highest contrast fades. A happy medium will lead to a long life with your jeans and a fading you like. You're going to have to figure that out for yourself according to how you wear your jeans, where you wear your jeans, where you live, etc. All these things affect fading properties and longetivity of your denim

                                        that's a hell load of info! thank you so much DougNg! thanks for being so patient and helpful in explaining. really reall appreciate it.

                                        make peace, not war. <3

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                                          I think I remember Giles saying that the 634s were washed very gently at the factory.  Correct me if I am wrong.

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                                          • GilesG
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                                            @volcano:

                                            too slow?

                                            He meant he was too slow, as I responded before he did…

                                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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