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    • jimmyJ
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      @georgeel:

      PBJ-24oz vs. IH-25oz. Who's better?

      Sorry I side tracked the question.

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      • gbougardG
        gbougard
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        two totally different animals. Too hard to pass a judgement. I'd vote for IH though. Maybe PBJ has a teeny weeny bit more stylishness with their deep blue models but the denim fabric of the IH is much heavier, feels much more than 1oz heavier, and I truly wonder if PBJ is really at 24oz.

        Sly Dunbar bigs up IH on YT
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t2OM738mKY
        Sly & Robbie A Run Tings
        Gregory Isaacs Liveth 4 I-ver

        Renault: What in heaven’s name brought you to Casablanca?
        Rick: My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters.
        Renault: The waters? What waters? We’re in the desert.
        Ric

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        • SeulS
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          The colour of my XX-009s is astonishing… They do stretch reàlly easily, though... When they arrived, I thought 'How the féck am I gonna get in these?.." But I pulled the waist a bit and was able to MANUALLY stretch them, bit like a pair of sweatpants haha... Anyhow... They were a bit snug at first but perfect right now... The feel of the denim is quite intense as well... I'm sure these will fade like no other... Tremendously happy with this purchase...

          Too bad I won't be wearing it a lot until next spring  😉

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            I don't think you can compare two heavy weights. IH vs. PBJ is comparing something like Android and iOS. It just can't be compared. They are both amazing brands with amazing products.

            PBJ xx-005 tts sz 29.

            Just received them today from a trade with decades777 (excellent trader). Always wanted a pair of PBJ's never thought of owning these though always thought of owning a pair of deep indigos those will be next though.

            Anyways here is the fit sorry for the horrible expression, I have tons of homework, PSATs, SATs, and im sick but w/e.
            I'll get a proper WAYWT up soon.

            The denim is great on these! I initially bought these thinking they were going to be more of a full cut but when I got them and realized they are actually slim that made me a bit more happy. These also remind me of a lightweight slubbier version of my S500JX-LRs. Actually they almost look like the same denim.

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            • SeulS
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              PBJ XX-009 has the highest rise of all dark indigo models?.. Can anyone compare the rise of say the XX-007 and a pair of 634Ses or Beatle Busters?..

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              • elclintorE
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                007's are way lower…

                Nutsplitters I tell ya.

                Geo

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                • kit99barK
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                  a lot of the pbj cuts are low rise, tight tights, no taper after knee.  ahha

                  RAWWAR 2012!

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                  • SeulS
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                    Yeah mine are supposedly tapered down the knee but can't say I can tell… Plus they stretch, and stretch, and keep  stretching... And not just in the waist... Also the rise is too low... Especially now with the hip flares and all that...

                    Great fabric, but I wished a decent brand would be allowed to make a jeans out of it  😶

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                    • Max PowerM
                      Max Power
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                      I also love PBJ for their fabrics, but the cuts are not my cup of tea. Too low rise and skinny, I don't think I could squeeze my thighs in, and I'm not that fat… So, seul, your thighs stretched too?

                      @elclintor:

                      > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                      • SeulS
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                        Everything fucking stretched to the point of them becoming FUBAR… Yeah... If you need a pair of jeans WITHOUT any sense of cut or silhouette after 3 weeks, just buy the 009s...

                        Now I just will wear them and ABUSE THEM out of pure spite…

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                        • B
                          beautiful_FrEaK
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                          Tried on the 005 at Daniel's. Also not made for me. From BiG's measurements the 003 would be best for me I think

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                          • kit99barK
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                            003, 006, 009 seem like the only ones that would work for me.  would nee to size down to account for the infamous stretching that Seul is reporting.

                            RAWWAR 2012!

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                            • SeulS
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                              I think I could've downsized to a 30 - honestly…  😠

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                                I have found that these are stretchy (005) but they don't actually stretch, only when you wear them the stretch. B_f, you could have asked me and I could have told you these weren't for you xD. These are probably just as skinny as my 666ODs. If I went one more size down I would be in a skin tight fit. But I love the fit of mine.

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                                  dawei94
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                                  The strike gold 14oz denim seems to look similar to the 005 denim, and they've got a decent selection of cuts too. You could take a look at those if you don't like the pbj cuts

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                                  • passthestripeP
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                                    @Seul:

                                    I think I could've downsized to a 30 - honestly…  😠

                                    Sucks that they have not been ideal for ya Belgium.

                                    I've been reading the sufu pbj thread a bit recently, it seems that everyone does size down A LOT with PBJ's for this reason I guess… Or because pbj people want to have drain pipe legs!? :p

                                    I'm TTS32, and in the raw xx-011's I only sized down one to 31.  They are slim fit, but not skinny, so I've not suffered from much stretch as they were never brutally tight, post initial cold soak I could do up all the buttons straight away no problem.  If I want a super fitted look I could have easily went down to the raw 30... Just would have had sore baws and thighs for a few weeks!  😢  I don't though, so when I get my NC-011's in raw i'll stick with the 31's.  😎

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                                    • SeulS
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                                      @dawei94:

                                      The strike gold 14oz denim seems to look similar to the 005 denim, and they've got a decent selection of cuts too. You could take a look at those if you don't like the pbj cuts

                                      Only went with PBJ for the denim. And for that reason I'm not thàt bothered by them having stretched, cause I wanna see them bleed and fade… For the perfect cut jeans I have my 634S and 9634Z...

                                      Waistwise my tagged 32s now measure close or even slightly over 34"... So they're loose on me... Thighs and knee area have stretched quite a lot as well... I know they're lighter weight jeans but my ALD Prescott darktones never stretched more than half an inch anywhere... Aaahhh well... C'est la vie... Just wondering whether the 24 oz. models also suffer from this?..

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                                        @Seul:

                                        @dawei94:

                                        The strike gold 14oz denim seems to look similar to the 005 denim, and they've got a decent selection of cuts too. You could take a look at those if you don't like the pbj cuts

                                        Only went with PBJ for the denim. And for that reason I'm not thàt bothered by them having stretched, cause I wanna see them bleed and fade… For the perfect cut jeans I have my 634S and 9634Z...

                                        Waistwise my tagged 32s now measure close or even slightly over 34"... So they're loose on me... Thighs and knee area have stretched quite a lot as well... I know they're lighter weight jeans but my ALD Prescott darktones never stretched more than half an inch anywhere... Aaahhh well... C'est la vie... Just wondering whether the 24 oz. models also suffer from this?..

                                        what size do you wear in the 634s? curious because ive been looking at pbj, specifically the 007 and 009 cuts, and was thinking maybe size up one based off of the big measurements. im not looking for a fit any slimmer than the 634s tts

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                                        • SeulS
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                                          31 in 634S- sized down 1 that is.. I'd go for the same size as your 634S'es than for the 009 if I were you…

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                                            @Seul:

                                            31 in 634S- sized down 1 that is.. I'd go for the same size as your 634S'es than for the 009 if I were you…

                                            thanks for the advice, ill do that if i can get a pair of 009s in my size

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