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    • SeulS
      Seul
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      Yeah mine are supposedly tapered down the knee but can't say I can tell… Plus they stretch, and stretch, and keep  stretching... And not just in the waist... Also the rise is too low... Especially now with the hip flares and all that...

      Great fabric, but I wished a decent brand would be allowed to make a jeans out of it  😶

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      • Max PowerM
        Max Power
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        I also love PBJ for their fabrics, but the cuts are not my cup of tea. Too low rise and skinny, I don't think I could squeeze my thighs in, and I'm not that fat… So, seul, your thighs stretched too?

        @elclintor:

        > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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        • SeulS
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          Everything fucking stretched to the point of them becoming FUBAR… Yeah... If you need a pair of jeans WITHOUT any sense of cut or silhouette after 3 weeks, just buy the 009s...

          Now I just will wear them and ABUSE THEM out of pure spite…

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            beautiful_FrEaK
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            Tried on the 005 at Daniel's. Also not made for me. From BiG's measurements the 003 would be best for me I think

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            • kit99barK
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              003, 006, 009 seem like the only ones that would work for me.  would nee to size down to account for the infamous stretching that Seul is reporting.

              RAWWAR 2012!

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              • SeulS
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                I think I could've downsized to a 30 - honestly…  😠

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                  I have found that these are stretchy (005) but they don't actually stretch, only when you wear them the stretch. B_f, you could have asked me and I could have told you these weren't for you xD. These are probably just as skinny as my 666ODs. If I went one more size down I would be in a skin tight fit. But I love the fit of mine.

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                    dawei94
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                    The strike gold 14oz denim seems to look similar to the 005 denim, and they've got a decent selection of cuts too. You could take a look at those if you don't like the pbj cuts

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                    • passthestripeP
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                      @Seul:

                      I think I could've downsized to a 30 - honestly…  😠

                      Sucks that they have not been ideal for ya Belgium.

                      I've been reading the sufu pbj thread a bit recently, it seems that everyone does size down A LOT with PBJ's for this reason I guess… Or because pbj people want to have drain pipe legs!? :p

                      I'm TTS32, and in the raw xx-011's I only sized down one to 31.  They are slim fit, but not skinny, so I've not suffered from much stretch as they were never brutally tight, post initial cold soak I could do up all the buttons straight away no problem.  If I want a super fitted look I could have easily went down to the raw 30... Just would have had sore baws and thighs for a few weeks!  😢  I don't though, so when I get my NC-011's in raw i'll stick with the 31's.  😎

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                      • SeulS
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                        @dawei94:

                        The strike gold 14oz denim seems to look similar to the 005 denim, and they've got a decent selection of cuts too. You could take a look at those if you don't like the pbj cuts

                        Only went with PBJ for the denim. And for that reason I'm not thàt bothered by them having stretched, cause I wanna see them bleed and fade… For the perfect cut jeans I have my 634S and 9634Z...

                        Waistwise my tagged 32s now measure close or even slightly over 34"... So they're loose on me... Thighs and knee area have stretched quite a lot as well... I know they're lighter weight jeans but my ALD Prescott darktones never stretched more than half an inch anywhere... Aaahhh well... C'est la vie... Just wondering whether the 24 oz. models also suffer from this?..

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                          @Seul:

                          @dawei94:

                          The strike gold 14oz denim seems to look similar to the 005 denim, and they've got a decent selection of cuts too. You could take a look at those if you don't like the pbj cuts

                          Only went with PBJ for the denim. And for that reason I'm not thàt bothered by them having stretched, cause I wanna see them bleed and fade… For the perfect cut jeans I have my 634S and 9634Z...

                          Waistwise my tagged 32s now measure close or even slightly over 34"... So they're loose on me... Thighs and knee area have stretched quite a lot as well... I know they're lighter weight jeans but my ALD Prescott darktones never stretched more than half an inch anywhere... Aaahhh well... C'est la vie... Just wondering whether the 24 oz. models also suffer from this?..

                          what size do you wear in the 634s? curious because ive been looking at pbj, specifically the 007 and 009 cuts, and was thinking maybe size up one based off of the big measurements. im not looking for a fit any slimmer than the 634s tts

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                          • SeulS
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                            31 in 634S- sized down 1 that is.. I'd go for the same size as your 634S'es than for the 009 if I were you…

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                              @Seul:

                              31 in 634S- sized down 1 that is.. I'd go for the same size as your 634S'es than for the 009 if I were you…

                              thanks for the advice, ill do that if i can get a pair of 009s in my size

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                                buttersb
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                                Looking at getting my first pair of raw-denim and interested in some PBJ's.

                                In another thread everyone pointed me to the IH634s since I was going for a straight legged modern fit.
                                I like the slubbyness and look of the PBJ's from what I've seen, so I was curious about the comparible fit to the IH634, and if there are any gotchas with the PBJ's?

                                Thanks guys!

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                                • SeulS
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                                  I would suggest the PBJ XX-009. They stretch though, and quite a lot, but you end up with a nice straight leg. They are supposedly tapered but I have yet to notice that - although I did have them hemmed to a 33" inseam which could the reason for that… Other PBJ models have either very low rises, or are slim/ skinny fits...

                                  I bought the one-wash model here:

                                  http://blueingreensoho.com/site/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=111&category_id=&manufacturer_id=9&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=28

                                  I went true to size by the way. Could've easily gone one size down. Random fit pics:



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                                  • kit99barK
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                                    heed Seul's warning on the stretching and size down 1!

                                    RAWWAR 2012!

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                                      Seul:  They seem to have a very flat, generic blue color, whereas the IH's had some texture/character to the denim. Is that just the picture?

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                                      • SeulS
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                                        They're new, hence the flat colour… Trust me: they will fade like crazy...

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                                        • GimpKidG
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                                          @buttersb:

                                          Seul:  They seem to have a very flat, generic blue color, whereas the IH's had some texture/character to the denim. Is that just the picture?

                                          The XX-009 have a indigo warp and weft thread, so there's no contrast like regular denim. I believe the XX-003 is the same fit but with "normal" denim.

                                          http://blueingreensoho.com/site/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=23&category_id=&manufacturer_id=9&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=28

                                          But Seul's right, the 009 will fade, just differently.

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                                          • SeulS
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                                            I was assuming you had done your homework, buttersb  😉 … But yeah if that's what you mean, check GimpKid's post... They look like overdyed jeans only they're not and fade much nicer… Again: these have barely been worn, let alone worn hard... I've been sleeping in them, that's about it... I only wear 14 ounce jeans when it's warm(er)...



                                            Very uneven structure. Hard to tell, probably.

                                            634S versus PBJ XX-009:


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