Random questions to which you seek an answer
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What cut do you think these pre-2012 jeans are please? They're 21oz Black Armor Denim with a Levis style patch.
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@sabergirl said in Random questions to which you seek an answer:
Looks like super black 461 boot cut
Thank you
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@Karol I don’t know if there’s a way to measure other than feel, but in my experience I’d say the densest I’ve encountered would be the 25oz Mad Black. Probably second to that would be XHSII.
Maybe worth adding that while lighter weight, the 14oz feels like a pretty damn dense weave. We talk pretty frequently about it being less breathable than many.
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@popvulture ahh the 25oz MB, if only that fabric could make a come back! I'm always waiting for @Oaktavia to post some new photos.
@goosehd I remember reading something about them in older forum posts. That was duck right?anything else that comes to mind?
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@goosehd I need to read up on this topic, I remember that after the shuttle loom broke the rest was made on a more modern type of loom. What a story!
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The easy way to measure this is to measure the thickness of the fabric. The weight measurement is already an aerial/surface density being a ounces per square yard. Then just convert that aerial to an actual density using the third value. I can take some measurements and put together a list later after work today. Now I'm curious.
But really, just by feel, the mad black does feel pretty dense. Though I'm pretty consistently amazed with how thin UHR feels given it should be 23oz. Putting on XHS after wearing UHR for a month feels like putting on 21 after wearing 14 almost.
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@pechelman yeah man I’d agree about UHR. For some reason it seems to get a reputation for being a punishing denim, but in my experience it’s definitely on the comfier side of other heavy denims I’ve had, various iterations of XHS included. UHR’s a huge fave of mine, both in terms of feel and fading.
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@Karol thanks for posting that link, those photos are crazy. Going to read more of that thread at lunch today.
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@pechelman I would appreciate it so much!! Your proposed measurement method might be just what we need.
I was recently thinking about this topic, as I initially came to IH for heavy fabrics that are super wearable (and boy oh boy IH does deliver) but after I got IHSH-362-BLK - 16oz Non-Selvedge Denim CPO Shirt - Superblack (Fades to Grey) I realized I like ''cardboard - like'' denim as well
I want to understand what makes it this way and what other fabrics like that I should have on the radar.
@goosehd pointing to loombreakers suggests it has to be connected with the weaving tension. I guess the 16oz (IHSH-362-BLK) was non-selvedge to facilitate that increased tension. -
@Mizmazzle The IH guys will know the best, but I remember this being connected with tsunami or earthquake affecting Japan. I guess the the money was going to the victims. I don't remember where I saw the details but I will take a look.
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@Mizmazzle Actually its in the description - https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum//post/828653
11th March 2011 is a date etched into Japanese memories, with the country experiencing the strongest earthquake in its recorded history. The tsunami that followed devastated the northeastern coastline, claiming over 20,000 lives and leaving nearly half a million homeless. In addition to this tragic loss of life, the destruction led to the meltdown of the Fukushima nuclear power plant, forcing thousands more people to evacuate their homes and businesses. Crippling the infrastructure of the entire country, the region of Tōhoku is still recovering from the event even today, more than a decade on.
One story that followed in the aftermath of the tsunami was that of a heavily damaged Harley-Davidson motorcycle, washed up in a shipping container on the shoreline of Canada. Thanks to the Japanese markings and intact VIN number, Harley tracked down the bike’s original owner, Ikuo Yokoyama. Ikuo was amongst the thousands of Japanese survivors, and whilst he too had lost his home and possessions, he humbly declined the offer of a brand new replacement. Instead, he respectfully requested that the bike be placed in the Harley-Davidson museum, as a memorial to the victims of the tsunami.
Ikuo Yokoyama is now the founder of Life Is A Miracle, a charity set up to support the ongoing efforts to rebuild in the region. A cause close to the heart of Iron Heart owner, Haraki-san, we’re proud to be raising awareness throughout the world with this ongoing series of custom designs and prints.
