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Iron Heart Products - What do you think we should make?

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    injunjack
    見習いボス
    Joined: 19 Feb 2010

    Jeans should be made in different lenghts, at least tapered models. It's not the same to have tapered jeans made in say 32in lenght as it's to hem tapered jeans from 36 to 32. I think I might have said this also yearsago... ✌

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      goosehd
      Mod Squad
      Joined: 8 Apr 2016

      I asked the guys at the shop about this once, and if I recall correctly….I think there are minimal differences in the opening based on the length and none of the tapers are that drastic you would see a pronounced effect.

      May be off base and misremembering the conversation.

      Apologies if I’m wrong and delete if necessary.

      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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        Alex
        IHUK Crew
        @injunjack
        Joined: 28 Sept 2009

        @injunjack we tried and failed with the 777S-21. They ended up just being the exact same Jean hemmed to 32 with no difference in taper. We think it was a lost in translation thing, the Japanese think they nailed the brief. We haven’t tried again since that attempt

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          Kasi
          見習いボス
          Joined: 9 Oct 2014

          Easier just get them
          Hem to your desires size

          Not an admin. Not a mod. But the guy whose fits turn heads and whose name comes up when people ask, “how should this piece fit?” 🖕

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            Alex
            IHUK Crew
            @Kasi
            Joined: 28 Sept 2009

            @Kasi said in Iron Heart Products - What do you think we should make?:

            Easier just get them
            Hem to your desires size

            Well no, not really. And it doesn't solve @injunjack 's problem which is a valid one. It is something we want to do, just need to work out how to make it happen.

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              Kasi
              見習いボス
              Joined: 9 Oct 2014

              An idea
              If that’s case
              Customer put in pre orders in
              For this matter.

              Not an admin. Not a mod. But the guy whose fits turn heads and whose name comes up when people ask, “how should this piece fit?” 🖕

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                Alex
                IHUK Crew
                @Kasi
                Joined: 28 Sept 2009

                @Kasi That wouldn't work mate. The pattern needs to be altered pre-production for this to work effectively. It would essentially become a new cut. The hem measurement at 36.5" on a (say 888 model) would need to be the same at 32" (which it is not if you hem them from the existing pattern)

                Its not an easy fix, but we are not giving up on it

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                  goosehd
                  Mod Squad
                  Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                  …and I think that’s the problem. I understood @injunjack recommendation/request to mean having different hem lengths available for purchase, and @Alex seeing it as a redesign of the pattern.

                  As soon as I saw Alex’s interpretation it made me view the initial request differently.

                  Throw in a language barrier and things would get much more complicated.

                  "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                    injunjack
                    見習いボス
                    Joined: 19 Feb 2010

                    I realized already that it would need re-designing the shorter lenghts. Huge task indeed. I'm glad this is under consideration.

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                      Nik
                      Raw and Unwashed
                      Joined: 12 Nov 2020

                      This is really interesting. It sort of implies that a taper as a design is always going to offer a completely different overall shape to legs of different lengths. My 888’s are closer to a straight leg than someone taller.
                      I’m going to start a denim company that shortens the hem by chopping off length at the thigh and reattaching there to maintain the integrity of the taper shape.

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                        injunjack
                        見習いボス
                        @Nik
                        Joined: 19 Feb 2010

                        @Nik said in Iron Heart Products - What do you think we should make?:

                        This is really interesting. It sort of implies that a taper as a design is always going to offer a completely different overall shape to legs of different lengths. My 888’s are closer to a straight leg than someone taller.

                        Exactly this.

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                          Karol
                          啓蒙家
                          Joined: 14 Nov 2022

                          Seeing @injunjack and @Alex take I have to say that this is much needed conversation when having tapered cuts. @Haraki-san stated few times that the silhouette is particularly important to him. In his classic straight cut shortening the inseam by hemming or cuffing is an appropriate solution - the silhouette remains intact (@Haraki-san seems to prefer hemming). It all changes with the introduction of taper, any inseam length alteration destroys the very silhouette designer had in mind. And from a practical point of view, it deprives the owner of the very function they were purchased for - the taper.

                          Favorite:
                          IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
                          IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
                          IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
                          IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

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                            motojobobo
                            啓蒙家
                            Joined: 22 Aug 2015

                            Retain cut silhouette regardless of inseam length, in a cost-effective manner…damn, this is a most formidable tailor challenge!

                            The journey is the objective.

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                              Oroccoco
                              The Unwoven
                              Joined: 3 Aug 2020

                              Just hold out for the return of the wide leg, we'll all be in 634 this time next year.

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                                Karol
                                啓蒙家
                                @Oroccoco
                                Joined: 14 Nov 2022

                                @Oroccoco said in Iron Heart Products - What do you think we should make?:

                                Just hold out for the return of the wide leg, we'll all be in 634 this time next year.

                                🤣🤣

                                Favorite:
                                IH-888S-21 | IH-888-XHSib | IH-805 | IH-729-PUR | IH-555-XHS | IH-555S-25MB
                                IHSH-339-SAX | IHSH-341-BLK | IHSH-293-OD | IHSH-362-BLK | IHSH-409-IB | IHSH-336-OD | IHSB-BIGBUCK-BLK
                                IHV-44-BLK | IHV-02-BLK
                                IHJ-75-BLK | IHJ-79-BLK | IHM-37-ODG

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                                  october rust
                                  Haraki san Student
                                  Joined: 14 Dec 2020

                                  Chocolate Brown IH-731 😊

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                                    Inorganic
                                    Haraki san Student
                                    Joined: 7 Sept 2022

                                    White 777’s (same material as the IH-666S-WH‘s please 🤩🤯🤗)

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                                      Alex
                                      IHUK Crew
                                      @Inorganic
                                      Joined: 28 Sept 2009

                                      @Inorganic This won't happen sadly as the white 21oz denim is not available for us currently, but you may see some other white pants soon in the 777....

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                                        Inorganic
                                        Haraki san Student
                                        @Alex
                                        Joined: 7 Sept 2022

                                        @Alex thanks for getting back to me and the info. seems i need to make a choice...wait for the 777s in some fashion of white material or pull the trigger on my first 666s (i checked and it seems that there are some 33's in stock which i could possibly squeeze into 35.2" is a good place for me and my muffin top). But this would be my first slim/no taper pant so the 666 cut is a new world to me - do you think it would be similar to the sexihxlsxa13 cut?

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                                          Dstauffer
                                          啓蒙家
                                          Joined: 24 Apr 2015

                                          Maybe you could see if H has any interest in branching out the IH brand to include decor

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