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    • GilesG
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      @neph93 At this point I share the same concerns as you did with your first attempt. Though, in my case, I never managed to get enough structure in the dough with the coil folds, so I think my concerns will prove to be valid.....

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      • goosehdG
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        @Giles I just finished watching that video and was wondering how your dough was working for you.

        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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        • GilesG
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          Like this.......

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          • goosehdG
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            @Giles How much time left? I do see the surface bubbles forming...

            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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            • GilesG
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              That's after 4 coil folds, so at that very second we are looking for 2 hours.....

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              • neph93N
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                Looks about right mate. My second attempt was around about there.

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                Are the same that burn crosses”

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                • neph93N
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                  -----I'm missing trhe results post @Giles

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                  Are the same that burn crosses”

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                  • GilesG
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                    I will post pics shortly. But basically, it was a disaster.

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                    • GilesG
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                      Yes, a magnificent disaster. Almost comically bad……

                      Many issues. Obviously, the oven was at too high a temperature, that is an easy fix. More tricky to determine is why I got so little rise. Could be old yeast, though I have successfully made good Poolish recently (new Yeast has been ordered). I used a new supermarket bread flour, that I have never used before, maybe that was rubbish. I’ll make a Poolish with it when the new yeast arrives to check that it is strong enough. The temperature of the dough was good throughout the process. Empirically, I got a decent change in the dough after the initial bowl fold, but after that I never really saw any strengthening of the dough, and deep-down, knew that putting them in the oven was a waste of energy....

                      This is my greatest disaster since I used dead yeast a few years back and made 2 bricks…….BUT, I will get it right......

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                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • neph93N
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                        Yes... that did not go well. Well at least you have something to work on during your rehab besides your return to olympian levels of fitness! Any idea what went wrong?

                        “Some of those that work forces
                        Are the same that burn crosses”

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                        • GilesG
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                          See my commentary above

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • goosehdG
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                            One more fold and rest for the 80 minutes.

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                            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                            • pechelmanP
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                              to me that looks either underprooved or you've got bad yeast/flour @Giles . The oven temperature looks fine to me, not seeing any excessive scorching, maybe just less time in the oven or lower the temp a good bit in the 2nd half if you prefer a darker crust to avoid the darker patches. The picture of the dough on parchment also appear to show it having underdeveloped structure with how it's kinda spilling around its sides. This could be due to a number of reasons with the flour, too high a hydration for that new flour, or not enough gluten development.

                              How are you starting the build and at what hydration? Suggest a 1hr autolyse without salt followed by 2 rounds of Rubuad kneading in ~30min intervals then follow by lamination and coil folds.

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                              • GilesG
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                                Thank you.

                                I did exactly as per this:

                                https://www.kingarthurbaking.com/recipes/pan-de-cristal-recipe

                                Which is effectively the same as this:

                                Hydration was the same, and all other ingredients had the same ratios, so I suspect crap flour or old yeast.

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                • goosehdG
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                                  Preparing for the turnout and proofing:

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                                  "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                  • pechelmanP
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                                    that's looking really great @goosehd !

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                                      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                      • GilesG
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                                        Yeah, a bzillion times better than mine. Congrats....

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        • goosehdG
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                                          Not over until it's slathered in butter, or something along those lines. The house is cool today and it's raining outside making for a difficult process. Had to use the oven with the light on trick and the warming drawer to get the temps right. Hoping it proofs well...

                                          We'll see.

                                          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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