IH-888S-21 - 21oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo

schraiber

Just a bit over the one year anniversary of my 21oz 888. I don't wear them every day but I probably get in 2-4 wears a week, you can see that they're nice slow faders. The waist definitely stretched a bit but I think if I get another pair someday I'd probably size up.

PXL_20231203_222244072.MP.jpg

TinMan

@schraiber what size are you currently wearing? Btw great scenery!

schraiber

@TinMan these are tag 33. I'm 5'11'' and 175lbs or so (actually been a while since I weighed myself). I was debating between a 33 and a 34 but had recently been burned by a pair (from another brand) stretching out so much I needed them tailored, so erred on the side of the 33. I don't remember what they started at in the waist but nowadays they're something like 16.75 inch flat, and I think I'd be happier with 17 or even 17.25 flat. It's fine if I'm not tucking anything and standing, but as soon as I try to tuck or sit down it's not optimal.

TinMan

Welcome to the eternal battle! to stretch or not to stretch. I have so many jeans that are so perfect fitting when I am standing. Sitting for extended periods of time or layering changes everyrhing. For the longest time I thought I was in between 36 and 35, stretched out my 35 and I now I think I am between 35 and 34. Some IH denim guru once told me if you can get them buttoned they will “eventually fit” for what’s it worth your fit looks good. I will probably keep all my 36, my 35 and maybe buy a 34 to rotate based on season of life, I am always up a few or down a few!

I am currently 6’ 1” 180

TinMan

@WhiskeySandwich i think you nailed it! I just had a PM conversation with forum member and for me and my body type its all about the rise. It took a long time for me to understand drape and silhouette. Measurements are always the best guide. I always tried to force the fit. Did not let the drape and silhouette do its thing. Example people say 888 is the modern smarter 1955. I see it a little different IMHO 1955 is meant to be worn a certain way, above hip bone just below Naval. 888s is better worn sitting right on the hip bone I love both but they are extremely different when worn despite similar measurements. I like to think street car desire Marlon Brando vs NWA late 80’s early 90’s. Both classic both denim wearing icons, but different style.

TinMan

Hope I did not sound pompous. I only say this because I mistakenly bought the wrong size to many times trying to make 888s wear like the 1995s. I honestly love both and now have more appreciation foe their differences.

TinMan

Apologies in advance, my spirit animal is Cliff Clavin wanted To clarify, my thinking. sizing dilemmas can be a real struggle sometimes. They can be pricey. Like gambling make rules and set minimums. In order of importance. For me Minimum FR 12” combined rise FR+RR 29, minimum waist 17.3, minimum thigh 13.3. I try not to experiment under my minimum requirements, I will sometimes but not typically.

Digressing on previous statement 888s vs 1955s, if a slimmer looking silhouette is considered a smarter fit then 888s is indeed smarter, but still a relaxed style.

I truly hope this helps anyone struggling with size decisions.

WhiskeySandwich

@TinMan Dude yea, combined rise was a big thing when I was figuring out the 888. I def have max/mins for everything. It's why my 888's fit damn near the same as my 777's, except for the rise/waist. 777's hang off my ass, which isn't bad in the summer. I love the way my 888's fit though, it's def the perfect cut for me. The hardest part is figuring how much stretch to expect.

TinMan

@WhiskeySandwich fo sure Stretch is tricky. I have both 36 and 35, I can wear both but have to soak the size 36 more often due to stretching slightly past my maximum.

Subprime

@Fades-for-future Here they are! It's been a little over three years with my 888s, and they get better each day. I wear them about 5 times a week in the Fall/Winter and not so much in the Spring/Summer; only when I do more leisure activities or am indoors most of the day. They're some tough faders, and it's something I've grown to really love about these jeans. I picked them up at SEPDX and knew nothing about IH before my visit. I told the gentleman at the shop I wanted a heavy pair of denim, and he whipped these bad boys out. So glad he suggested them:

Fades for future

@Subprime they just look great, the guys at Self Edge sold you the right pair without a doubt man. Got my 777s 21 and my 555s 21 and like you said, hard to break but great to enjoy going with 555s-sbg for the indigo invitational... Enjoy your Christmas