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IH-888S-21 - 21oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo

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    SashaDBZ
    Raw and Unwashed
    Joined: 16 Nov 2023

    Is anyone familiar with the Japan Blue J201 or J301. Just like the IH-888S-21, the Japan Blue has a back rise of 39-41 cm. This gives me the diaper effect with the Japan Blue. But the Japan Blue is a mid rise right?
    The IH-888S-21 is a high rise, so it should sit higher and I should have less of diaper problem with the IH-888S-21?

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      WhiskeySandwich
      啓蒙家
      @SashaDBZ
      Joined: 1 Mar 2023

      @SashaDBZ Not familiar with the Japan Blues, but for context, different brands create different arbitrary labels to their rises within the brand. I'd 100% go by measurements alone. even "straight" or "taper" cuts....it doesn't matter, only measurements and how you wear them. Hope that perspective helps

      Another thought on rise: this totally depends on where you want them on your hips. If you were to hypothetically assume that your crotch seam is the point that all other measurements are based off, a higher rise would do just that, RISE from the crotch. BUT if you base a waist measurement off a lower rise pair, and wear them at the same spot youre familiar with, the crotch will sag a lot and you'll end up with hella stacks. i base my fit from the ideal crotch position, then the thighs have a minimum, then a good rise to cover the buttcrack. ....just my rant about fit

      "The greatest obstacle to living is expectancy, which hangs upon tomorrow and loses today...The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
      -Seneca

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        aimes
        Raw and Unwashed
        @JoshC
        Joined: 19 Jul 2023

        @JoshC Hey Josh, based on your timeline it seems like we may be seeing this restock soon? Any update? 🙂

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          Alex
          IHUK Crew
          @aimes
          Joined: 28 Sept 2009

          @aimes no update, but hopefully pretty soon

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            Tobi
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            Joined: 12 Aug 2022
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              schraiber
              Raw and Unwashed
              Joined: 9 Sept 2022

              Just a bit over the one year anniversary of my 21oz 888. I don't wear them every day but I probably get in 2-4 wears a week, you can see that they're nice slow faders. The waist definitely stretched a bit but I think if I get another pair someday I'd probably size up.

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                TinMan
                啓蒙家
                @schraiber
                Joined: 22 Apr 2010

                @schraiber what size are you currently wearing? Btw great scenery!

                Now, I have an IRONHEART!!

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                  schraiber
                  Raw and Unwashed
                  @TinMan
                  Joined: 9 Sept 2022

                  @TinMan these are tag 33. I'm 5'11'' and 175lbs or so (actually been a while since I weighed myself). I was debating between a 33 and a 34 but had recently been burned by a pair (from another brand) stretching out so much I needed them tailored, so erred on the side of the 33. I don't remember what they started at in the waist but nowadays they're something like 16.75 inch flat, and I think I'd be happier with 17 or even 17.25 flat. It's fine if I'm not tucking anything and standing, but as soon as I try to tuck or sit down it's not optimal.

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                    TinMan
                    啓蒙家
                    Joined: 22 Apr 2010

                    Welcome to the eternal battle! to stretch or not to stretch. I have so many jeans that are so perfect fitting when I am standing. Sitting for extended periods of time or layering changes everyrhing. For the longest time I thought I was in between 36 and 35, stretched out my 35 and I now I think I am between 35 and 34. Some IH denim guru once told me if you can get them buttoned they will “eventually fit” for what’s it worth your fit looks good. I will probably keep all my 36, my 35 and maybe buy a 34 to rotate based on season of life, I am always up a few or down a few!

                    I am currently 6’ 1” 180

                    Now, I have an IRONHEART!!

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                      TinMan
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                      @WhiskeySandwich
                      Joined: 22 Apr 2010

                      @WhiskeySandwich i think you nailed it! I just had a PM conversation with forum member and for me and my body type its all about the rise. It took a long time for me to understand drape and silhouette. Measurements are always the best guide. I always tried to force the fit. Did not let the drape and silhouette do its thing. Example people say 888 is the modern smarter 1955. I see it a little different IMHO 1955 is meant to be worn a certain way, above hip bone just below Naval. 888s is better worn sitting right on the hip bone I love both but they are extremely different when worn despite similar measurements. I like to think street car desire Marlon Brando vs NWA late 80’s early 90’s. Both classic both denim wearing icons, but different style.

                      Now, I have an IRONHEART!!

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                        TinMan
                        啓蒙家
                        Joined: 22 Apr 2010

                        Hope I did not sound pompous. I only say this because I mistakenly bought the wrong size to many times trying to make 888s wear like the 1995s. I honestly love both and now have more appreciation foe their differences.

                        Now, I have an IRONHEART!!

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                          TinMan
                          啓蒙家
                          Joined: 22 Apr 2010

                          Apologies in advance, my spirit animal is Cliff Clavin 😆 wanted To clarify, my thinking. sizing dilemmas can be a real struggle sometimes. They can be pricey. Like gambling make rules and set minimums. In order of importance. For me Minimum FR 12” combined rise FR+RR 29, minimum waist 17.3, minimum thigh 13.3. I try not to experiment under my minimum requirements, I will sometimes but not typically.

                          Digressing on previous statement 888s vs 1955s, if a slimmer looking silhouette is considered a smarter fit then 888s is indeed smarter, but still a relaxed style.

                          I truly hope this helps anyone struggling with size decisions.

                          Now, I have an IRONHEART!!

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                            WhiskeySandwich
                            啓蒙家
                            @TinMan
                            Joined: 1 Mar 2023

                            @TinMan Dude yea, combined rise was a big thing when I was figuring out the 888. I def have max/mins for everything. It's why my 888's fit damn near the same as my 777's, except for the rise/waist. 777's hang off my ass, which isn't bad in the summer. I love the way my 888's fit though, it's def the perfect cut for me. The hardest part is figuring how much stretch to expect.

                            "The greatest obstacle to living is expectancy, which hangs upon tomorrow and loses today...The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
                            -Seneca

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                              TinMan
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                              Joined: 22 Apr 2010

                              @WhiskeySandwich fo sure Stretch is tricky. I have both 36 and 35, I can wear both but have to soak the size 36 more often due to stretching slightly past my maximum.

                              Now, I have an IRONHEART!!

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                              • SubprimeS
                                Subprime
                                Haraki san Student
                                Joined: 13 Sept 2022

                                @Fades-for-future Here they are! It's been a little over three years with my 888s, and they get better each day. I wear them about 5 times a week in the Fall/Winter and not so much in the Spring/Summer; only when I do more leisure activities or am indoors most of the day. They're some tough faders, and it's something I've grown to really love about these jeans. I picked them up at SEPDX and knew nothing about IH before my visit. I told the gentleman at the shop I wanted a heavy pair of denim, and he whipped these bad boys out. So glad he suggested them:
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                                Look for what you notice, but no one else sees

                                WTB: IHSH-399-ORA XL | IH-814-IND 32 (shorts)

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                                  Fades for future
                                  Iron Heart Deity
                                  @Subprime
                                  Joined: 4 Dec 2021

                                  @Subprime they just look great, the guys at Self Edge sold you the right pair without a doubt man. Got my 777s 21 and my 555s 21 and like you said, hard to break but great to enjoy👌 going with 555s-sbg for the indigo invitational... Enjoy your Christmas 🎄

                                  last edited by 23 Dec 2023, 19:03 SubprimeS 1 Reply Last reply 23 Dec 2023, 19:12 Reply Quote 2
                                  • SubprimeS
                                    Subprime
                                    Haraki san Student
                                    @Fades for future
                                    Joined: 13 Sept 2022

                                    @Fades-for-future thanks man! Looking forward to your SBG fades 🤘🏻Merry Christmas 🎄🎉

                                    Look for what you notice, but no one else sees

                                    WTB: IHSH-399-ORA XL | IH-814-IND 32 (shorts)

                                    last edited by Subprime 23 Dec 2023, 19:12 Fades for futureF 1 Reply Last reply 23 Dec 2023, 19:26 Reply Quote 1
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                                      Fades for future
                                      Iron Heart Deity
                                      @Subprime
                                      Joined: 4 Dec 2021

                                      @Subprime will also follow your UHR progress 👌💯
                                      Cheers🍻

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                                      • SteveS
                                        Steve
                                        IHUK Crew
                                        Joined: 28 Mar 2018

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                                        • AdamJA
                                          AdamJ
                                          IHUK Crew
                                          Joined: 29 Jun 2017

                                          Sizing chart will remain the same as previous run

                                          The devil is in the detail..

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