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    • tvenutoT
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      Well if I were coaching you and you could get to parallel without issue I'd say don't worry about pushing for deeper.  Unless you want to compete in the olympic lifts I'm not sure a super deep squat buys you all that much.

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      • neph93N
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        @tvenuto:

        .Unless you want to compete in the olympic lifts I'm not sure a super deep squat buys you all that much.

        Goddammit… another dream smashed against the rocks if reality by the sea of life [emoji16]

        Thank you for your pragmatism. A very well made point.

        “Some of those that work forces
        Are the same that burn crosses”

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        • GraemeG
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          Thor skips leg day…

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          • Paul9221P
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            I saw that picture yesterday and thought the same thing LOL

            To be fair, I never skip leg day but have never had big calves.

            Blanket-line all the things!!!

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            • tvenutoT
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              Ha yea I don’t judge a man for his calves but with that upper body his kneecaps should be depressions! #weoutsquattedthor

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              • ChrisC
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                Even his own brother dragged him.

                That's so off, I thought it was Photoshopped to be a joke at first.

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                • neph93N
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                  @yannis regarding your post on the IH-463S thread. If you ever feel like commenting here, and sharing the wealth of knowledge a competitive lifter must have, then please do… as a self taught amateur, I am always in awe of what experienced folks can teach me.

                  “Some of those that work forces
                  Are the same that burn crosses”

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                  • Y
                    yannis
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                    Buddy ask anything you want. I can generally give you solid advice..i was coached by very competend people that really have a clue. National programs are very well funded. My background is in Olympic weightlifting. 2 disciplines. The snatch and the clean and jerk. Those 2 lifts are the competition lifts but we do a lot of accessories to complement. Tons of squats front and back and a lot of pulling and upper back strengthening. The only thing we dont do is bench press and arms. For upper boddy we do standing shoulder pressing.
                    But please feel free to ask. I can help with programming or whatever general questions people may have.

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                    • goosehdG
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                      @yannis Impressive resume!  Do you still practice the Olympic lifts now that you are older?  How has your training evolved with age (higher reps, lower weight or vice versa)?  Do you lift for strength, conditioning, or some hybrid of the two?

                      Nearing 50, I am very concerned about joint health and want to keep lifting for as long as possible.  I really would appreciate your insights.

                      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                        I am 57 years old and yes i still practice the lifts. I workout 5 days a week. As you get older manipulating  volume and intensity is key. As far as Olympic weightlifting goes 2 things i notice as i got older. First and most important i got slower. As a weightlifter this is crucial because the time it takes you to go from full extension to full flexion dectates ultimately how much you can clean or snatch. I plain terms i cannot clean or snatch nearly what i was able to when younger not because im  that much weaker, but because i cannot get under heavy barbells fast enough to catch them. So my ass is slow lol!. We lose speed more so than strength as we age. Second i do not recover as fast if i go heavy. So high frequency with relatively low intensity 75% usually is what keeps me healthy.

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                        • iammortalcombatI
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                          Lifter Problems:

                          Can't fit in IH bottoms.

                          In all seriousness, I have been in quarantine for a week because my gf tested positive. I have not worked out and I feel terrible. I am slowly acquiring gym gear for the garage build i am doing, which slows down my IH purchasing. However, I did just score a power rack for a fraction of the normal price. Hoping to have it done before next winter.

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                          • JDelageJ
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                            @iammortalcombat:

                            Lifter Problems:

                            Can't fit in IH bottoms.

                            1955S
                            https://www.ironheart.co.uk/bottoms/1955s.html

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                            • iammortalcombatI
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                              @JDelage:

                              @iammortalcombat:

                              Lifter Problems:

                              Can't fit in IH bottoms.

                              1955S
                              https://www.ironheart.co.uk/bottoms/1955s.html

                              Familiar with it - has been out of stock for quite a while. Also for me, the 21oz will rarely be worn due to the climate here.

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                              • GilesG
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                                Don't know what your climate is, but the 21oz is warm when it's cold and cool when it's hot - True story…..

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                • mclaincauseyM
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                                  Wonder if 888-SST, perhaps sized up, would do the trick…

                                  Think it, be it.

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                                  • GraemeG
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                                    I've got scoliosis, and after two years of sedentary life due to lockdowns, I'm not comfortable going over about 80 to 100 kg in a deadlift or squat. 😞

                                    There's a powerlifter, bodybuilder, and physiotherapy genius in Melbourne called Dr Andrew Lock. He's come up with a set of exercises (the Lock Big 5) that he uses as the basis for rehabilitation. They're based on Stuart McGill's Big 3.

                                    I gave them a go this morning, and my back really felt it. Hopefully it'll sort things out.

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                                    • JDelageJ
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                                      So, I dislocated my shoulder over the winter break (bad spill on a bike in Hawaii, also chipped two teeth and had a few road abrasions…) I've not been back to the gym since then. This is super frustrating. I'm used to barbell lifts but I will go back and try some of the leg machines, for lack of a better option. There's no way I can deadlift or even squat right now.

                                      We have gotten a Peloton though, and it's been kind of a revelation. I cannot say I love it, but it's so very easy to use. It pairs readily with the Apple watch, displays your HR right on the screen, and it's super easy to target specific HR zones. I've been using it a lot.

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                                      • mclaincauseyM
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                                        Sorry that happened man.

                                        Highly recommend power zone training @JDelage IMO even better than heart zone training for many reasons, including that output is more of a leading than a trailing indicator compared to heart rate and less influenced by other factors since it is not directly biometric. I always advocate PZ to Peloton riders because it’s a waste of a power meter not to use it for such a great, targeted way to train. Matt Wilpers and Denis Morton are my preferred instructors for it. I’m currently doing a 7 week program I found on Reddit and people reported amazing gains in their functional threshold power, the metric used to establish your output zones (1-7) and measure your progress (the empirical piece is the best piece of PZ training).

                                        Think it, be it.

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                                        • neph93N
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                                          @JDelage:

                                          . This is super frustrating. I'm used to barbell lifts but I will go back and try some of the leg machines, for lack of a better option. There's no way I can deadlift or even squat right now.

                                          Totally empathise with the frustration. Take all the time you need though. A shoulder dislocation can easily lead to a permanent mechanical instability, and that may hinder your lifting efforts for life.

                                          “Some of those that work forces
                                          Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                          • Paul9221P
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                                            @JDelage  I commiserate with you, lifting-bro!  But I couldn't agree more with Reuben.  Don't fight it, give your body time to rest.

                                            I picked up one of those Rogue Echo assault bikes at the beginning of the pandemic and I absolutely love that thing.  It's not a smart device, but it tells me how fast I'm going and how far I've traveled.  Works for me!

                                            Question:  can you hold weight at your sides?  Maybe a trap-bar would allow you to do some of those barbell lifts?  My chiropractor always tells me to stop squatting with a barbell on my back, but to squat with a trap bar held at my sides.  If one of those works, you might still be able to deadlift, squat, and maybe even bench!  Though I would recommend dumbbells for chest work if you have shoulder issues.

                                            Blanket-line all the things!!!

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