Engineer boots
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Horse hide is a lot more scuff resistant than CXL. That stuff scratches if you breathe too hard in its general direction.
And brown boots. Always.
Never black.
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CXL will mould to your specific foot shape super quickly
As Chris says it does take a scuff, I would NEVER choose CXL for a dress shoe/boot
Brown, never black
We could do you a custom based on these:
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CXL will mould to your specific foot shape super quickly
As Chris says it does take a scuff, I would NEVER choose CXL for a dress shoe/boot
Brown, never blackWe could do you a custom based on these:
Really appreciating all this info. Just.out of curiosity, why do you guys prefer brown always over black? @Chris?
Ok so custom based on the IHTB-BOBRN…that is a very intriguing option....stupid question time;
1. What exactly can I customize? The type and color of leather? The sole as well, or does that stay the same?
2. I am assuming a custom build can't be returned/exchanged? I have no idea what my size would be in these so I'm guessing chances are I might not get it right the first time.
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Really appreciating all this info. Just.out of curiosity, why do you guys prefer brown always over black? @Chris?
Ok so custom based on the IHTB-BOBRN…that is a very intriguing option....stupid question time;
1. What exactly can I customize? The type and color of leather? The sole as well, or does that stay the same?
2. I am assuming a custom build can't be returned/exchanged? I have no idea what my size would be in these so I'm guessing chances are I might not get it right the first time.
I can't speak for G and the Fake Texan but I think brown is much more versatile. My first pair of Boss are black, and while I really like the build and the boot off foot, it doesn't wow me on foot with gear. They're practical af though, so still take a battering.
With Wesco's ordered through G you can customise everything. Heel height, number of straps, type of straps, strap length, buckles, leather, midsoles, outer soles, stitching colour, last/toe shape. You. Frikkin. Name. It.
You're right in your assumption but with a little help from your friends (on the forum and in sunny Gosport) it'll work out fine
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Really appreciating all this info. Just.out of curiosity, why do you guys prefer brown always over black? @Chris?
Ok so custom based on the IHTB-BOBRN…that is a very intriguing option....stupid question time;
1. What exactly can I customize? The type and color of leather? The sole as well, or does that stay the same?
2. I am assuming a custom build can't be returned/exchanged? I have no idea what my size would be in these so I'm guessing chances are I might not get it right the first time.
I can't speak for G and the Fake Texan but I think brown is much more versatile. My first pair of Boss are black, and while I really like the build and the boot off foot, it doesn't wow me on foot with gear. They're practical af though, so still take a battering.
With Wesco's ordered through G you can customise everything. Heel height, number of straps, type of straps, strap length, buckles, leather, midsoles, outer soles, stitching colour, last/toe shape. You. Frikkin. Name. It.
You're right in your assumption but with a little help from your friends (on the forum and in sunny Gosport) it'll work out fine
I can see what you're saying regarding the brown over black comments. I shall choose brown!
Regarding custom boots through G….wow. Ok I can see this as being a whole new rabbit hole I can easily get sucked in to. Customizing heel height is a cool option for me cause I've never liked the look of tall heels on mens boots. @neph93 when you say customizing heel height are you implying that I can order any specific measurement of my choosing or are you saying the heel height can be customized by way of picking which model heel/sole I chose per the Wesco options? In other words, can I say I want the 705 sole but with a heel height of 1"? Just as an example, not saying I would go with just a 1" heel height.
Where are the options for the leather choices available? On the Wesco site? This is pretty damn cool btw. Honestly I think the only thing I would customize on these is maybe make it an 8" height instead of 10", and then maybe just consider different leather options and use the 705 over the 700.
Any thoughts on this? Do you prefer a 10" or 8" height? Any thoughts on the 700 vs the 705? Sorry for all the annoying noob questions but this is exciting
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I do love the color on that Brown of the IHTB-BOBRN though. Looks very versatile and sharp as fuck.
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Also, one more question, what is the general turn around time on a custom order? I have a wedding in about 5 weeks from now and I'm wanting to have a pair by then.
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Bare in mind that we're talking Wesco's now. My knowledge otherwise is limited.
Short answer is, yes you can get a 1" heel height or thereabouts, with a #705 outer heel on top.
Long answer: The heels are built of layers of leather that measure about 4mm thick. You can add or remove these to adjust the height of the heel. There comes a point where lowering the heel too much requires a new last. Fortunately Wesco have you covered and make a special lowered heel last for their Boss. I suspect you'll want that.
There are a few leather options, if you're going for brown and want something semi formal though, the brown domain or new British (?) domain are the only way to go. The oil tanned brown doesn't take a shine too well and is a seriously heavy, thick, workmanlike leather.
Both my custom Boss are 11" and I like the height, but I'm looking at getting a pair of 8" made at the moment. It's more a less a matter of taste unless you're working/riding in the boot. If you wear tapered denim then a shorter shaft might be a good idea.
The IHTB-BOBRN uses brown domain. I have a feeling it's been used up and that new custom boots will need to be made of the British domain. It's pretty great stuff though. The lead time on custom Wesco's is between three and four months I'm afraid.
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Greatly appreciated @neph93 . I just checked everything out on the Wesco site and it looks like the brown domain is still available. What is the difference between the 700 and 705 sole? They have the identical description on the wesco site.
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They are identical except that the #700 runs the full length of the boot between the midsole and heel. The #705 has just a front piece and back piece. Check out the outersoles on the IHWE-5 (705) compared to the BOBRN (700).
Got it. Learning so much. Thanks Neph.
Do all of the IH/Wesco Engineers have the motor patrol toe? I think I like that one best.
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The only one that doesn't at the moment is this pair: https://www.ironheart.co.uk/boots2/tbwe-po.html
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Thanks again for all the help guys. Looks like for my first pair I might just have to get something in stock then do a custom pair in the future when my size is naled down and I'm not in a rush to get them.
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Always important to get the sizing down first. Nothing hurts more than making your dream boots and then not being able to wear them.
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I bet you could order a pair of boots from IHUK to make sure they fit, and then return them when you submit a custom order… a $35-50 cost to gain 100% confidence.
And when it comes down to it, it sounds like the BOBRN might be your best option - @Giles can assist with sizing, and they have a good bit of stock on hand. Plus, it has very faintly dyed midsoles, the good leather, and the shorter heel you want. And the longer straps
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It does sound like the brown BOBRN might be my best option. Now to figure out my size. Anyone who owns the converse all star 70's, what's your size in those and in Wesco? Also need to figure out if I'm a D or EE width. I'm going to measure my foot on a brannock in the next few days too.
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I wear a 9.5 in 70s and have some 10D Wescos coming soon
I wear a 10 in vans, 10.5 in Nike, 10 in Red Wing
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Thanks @Appfaff. I'm a 10.5 in 70's so by that conversion I'll try 11D in Wesco.
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Good luck! FYI, I wear thin socks with my chucks (Stance athletic) and usually boot socks (very thick) with my pull on boots. Hope that helps a bit as well.
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