Viberg

[jimmy]

30min with out seeping in shoes is considered waterproof. for leather is a double lasing process done by hand which makes like a water proof synthetic sock layer between outer and inner leathers.

just wondering if Viberg does it.

@Geo:

nope

no leather is completely waterproof

good leather, well treated and well looked after can protect your feet from getting soaked up to a point

also joints, stitching etc will all leak to some extent

[Geo]

ah - see what you're driving at . . . my mistake

thought you meant the material itself (when you quoted Gore-Tex) where waterproof is measured via IUP/7, ASTM D2099, ISO 14268 etc . . . not a construction technique and/or multiple layers to prevent water ingress

in that case - not sure if they do/can - my Vibergs are not built that way 

[jimmy]

have you taken your viberg on tramps before? crossing small streams etc
i assume it has a one piece tongue so should still be pretty "water proof"

@Geo:

ah - see what you're driving at . . . my mistake

thought you meant the material itself (when you quoted Gore-Tex) where waterproof is measured via IUP/7, ASTM D2099, ISO 14268 etc . . . not a construction technique and/or multiple layers to prevent water ingress

in that case - not sure if they do/can - my Vibergs are not built that way 

[Geo]

not been on tramps as such with them - just wear my walking boots for that i guess, but they were in plenty snow thro' the winter and the socks got pretty damp - the tongue isn't particularly thick leather compared to the rest

here's a pic if that helps any

[jimmy]

thanks Geo that really helps.

i am pretty keen on the scout with hemp thats on their homepage. but wanted to make sure they're suitable for what i want to use them for.

[Seul]

@jimmy:

thanks Geo that really helps.

i am pretty keen on the scout with hemp thats on their homepage. but wanted to make sure they're suitable for what i want to use them for.

Swimming?..

[Geo]

no problem 

was thinking on what you had asked and here's my experience:

HM forces - leather boots . . . not waterproof; so we had 2 pairs (min)
Hillwalking - leather boots . . . not waterproof although pretty close but was 3mm+ anfibio one-piece upper . . . then discovered Gore-Tex - dry but less breathable than than just leather, so sweatier 
Mountaineering - plastic boots . . . waterproof, but not much use for anything else!
Daywear - leather boots of various types . . . only my Veldtschoen boots could claim to keep the water out for any length of time

Guess what I'm saying is - if you want to stand in a puddle - buy wellies! 

[jimmy]

@Seul:

Swimming?..

only on tuesdays

but seriously hiking and hunting, walking in very wet mud and crossing wide shallow streams is common here when doing these activities.

[Geo]

any good hill walking boot then - I have asolo and scarpa

or these guys do hunting boots too:

http://www.meindl.de/english/

definitely wouldn't be having the hemp on any boot for that purpose

[jimmy]

@Geo:

definitely wouldn't be having the hemp on any boot for that purpose

yeah i know thats why i ask if they do the whole between layer thing so the hemp is just for show. i have a few custom H.S Trask which does the trick but wanted one that looks good for every day and practical.

for no good reason really its not like i walk down the street then suddenly run in to the bushes to hunt hahah….  i am the typical "i want one that does it all"

[Geo]

. . . and why the hell not? 

[Giles]

According to the tracking info, the IH/Viberg collabs have arrived.  Simon is popping round with his camera (and I hope not his swag-bag)…..G

[Geo]

oh hell . . . might be cancelling holidays on an affordability issue

[hectic]

Looking forward to those pics!

[jimmy]

indigo and super black? ???

[madmonday]

Both of these are really NICE -imho-

8"SHORTSHIFT BOOTS (#87)

&

6" BOBCAT (#36)

hoping I can get one or both pairs Iron Heart powered 

[Giles]

The plan is to do a Water Buffalo short shift.  Simon popped around last night, found the Viverg parcel and took some pics.  I'll let him tell you his thoughts, but def, the IH tab, needs to be rethought position wise:

[Simon]

I've never actually seen any Vibergs before in the flesh, I can't
believe how heavily built these things are!! The quality is awesome, great
Norwegian welted design, the black Buffalo and blue 21oz denim is a nice combo. Personally
I'm not a big fan of the sole, I'd rather see something with a heel? I would like to have taken these for a test drive around the IH store room to give you the full report, but my feet are a tiny Sz 7 and these samples are a Sz 10    Seriously great boots, I need to stat saving!

[Jii]

I'm totally over the moon with my short shifts, they're so comfy and look great. And they just ooze the kind of quality which tells me these will be around for a long time.

[jimmy]

that looks really good, much better than i thought it would to be honest.

@Simon:

Personally
I'm not a big fan of the sole, I'd rather see something with a heel?

same here.

@Giles:

but def, the IH tab, needs to be rethought position wise:

do you really need to have that tab at all? you never really see a good quality foot wear with
it's name branded on top/out side. also there is something happening with the top stitching around the opening.